In a message dated 1/21/00 7:45:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< But come on: pushrods and solid 
 axles are dated technology;  >>
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Mercedies win Indy not too long ago with 
a push rod motor. OHC motors have again been around since the 30's ever since 
the Offenhauser indy motors. Dated my butt.  How much different is a solid 
axel from a torsion beam rear axel.  How long ago do you think solid axels 
and torsion beam rear suspensions have been around.  Try since horse and 
carriages.  Hell you want to talk about modern suspensions the Ford Tempo and 
Taurus from the early 80's has a fully independant suspension. Oh look at 
that the the MK 4 golf still has a torsion beam type suspension  that is 
based on the '74 Golf mk1 talk about dated.  Please check if you're the pot 
before you call the kettle black.
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