Son:

Not completely sure, but the German production schedule is different than
ours.  They're more "rational" than us market-driven Americans.  Unlike us,
their new models begin production at the actual beginning of the new year.

Chris Williams
[email protected]



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Son Nguyen [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:   Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:07 PM
        To:     [email protected]
        Subject:        RE: gti/gli

        Thanks Chris, Brett.  I guess VW just used all the leftover
        small bumpers on the 90s.  I guess that makes mine a
        90.5 GLI.  Now what the heck is an 89.5 GLI?

        Son
        90.5 GLI :-)

        >Son:
        >
        >The small bumper '90 is often referred to as an "early '90" GLI.  I
have one
        >in Alpine White and know of two others who do too: Dave Ingold and
Akira
        >Sasaki, both on this list.  Mine has a production date of 12/89.  I
think
        >Dave's and Akira's are 11-12/89 too.
        >
        >HTH,
        >
        >Chris Williams
        >[email protected]
        >(1) 212 449-2281
        >
        >
        >         -----Original Message-----
        >         From:   Son Nguyen [SMTP:[email protected]]
        >         Sent:   Wednesday, February 23, 2000 1:35 PM
        >         To:     [email protected]
        >         Subject:        Re: gti/gli
        >
        >         Patrick,
        >
        >         This is the first time I've ever heard of a 2.0 16v GLI
        >         with small bumpers.  Is that what's commonly referred
        >         as the model year 89.5 GLI?  I thought 89.5 meant it
        >         was the same as an 89 GLI w/ 1.8 16v but w/ 10.1" brakes
        >         and some other goodies.  Can someone please elaborate.
        >         My 90 GLI is 2.0 16v w/ stock big bumpers.  I've never
        >         heard of a small bumpered GLI w/ 2.0 16v.  Anyone actually
        >         own/seen one of these?  Also, where is the added weight?
        >         I thought those bumpers don't really add much.  Is there
        >         additional weight elsewhere?
        >
        >         I agree w/ your statement about getting a
        >         "WELL CARED FOR CAR".  I've spent almost $4,000 fixing it
        >         up and it wasn't an abused car or anything.  It was
        >         in great shape mechanically and cosmetically but needed
        >         all the wear and tear items replaced such as
rotors/brakes, engine/
        >         tranny mounts, tires, radiator/thermostat/fanswitch,
clutch/clutch
        >cable,
        >         shocks/springs, timing belt, shift linkage, ...  It adds
up pretty
        >quickly.
        >         There's probably about $1,000 in labor you can save if you
        >         can do it all yourself.
        >
        >         IMO, at best $3,000 will buy you is a good fairly
lo-mileage
        >         2.0 16v car to start pouring another $3,000 into to make
it run
        >         *almost* as good as new again.  Unless you get a
hi-mileage car w/
        >         more than 150K miles or find an awesome deal.
        >
        >         Son
        >         90 GLI 2.0 16v w/ big bumpers
        >
        >         At 12:56 PM 2/23/00 -0500, Patrick Austin wrote:
        >         >IMHO, probably the best "deal" on a 16v Jetta is going to
be a '90
        >GLI.
        >         >First year of the 2.0l 16v and the last year of the small
bumper
        >cars.
        >         >It's lighter than the '91 and '92, probably it really
isn't
        >noticiably
        >         >heavier than a '91 or '92 GTI.  Plus, its cheaper, has
motronic
        >rather than
        >         >CIS-E (a bit easier to care for) and the benefit of
german
        >construction.  I
        >         >personally own a German made '91 GLI and love it.  Any
16v is going
        >to be
        >         >great, but if I had $3000 in my pocket I'd try to track
down a '90
        >GLI.
        >         >The '91's and '92's run a bit more because of the
slightly updated
        >styling
        >         >(and added weight.  Booo!!!).   Well cared for 2.0l 16v
GTI's are
        >also
        >         >going to be well over $3000, and the 1.8l cars aren't
quite as
        >torquey
        >         >('87-'89 are 1.8l's).  The big thing, IMHO, is to get a
WELL CARED
        >FOR CAR.
        >         >  You can EASILLY spend $1500 fixing up a car that wasn't
loved...
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
**************
        >         >                                                 Patrick
Austin
        >         >
[email protected]
        >         >
(617)493-6636
        >         >
**************

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