What is the rest of your setup, and under what circumstances can you get the
tail to come out? E-brake?  I've driven my cars with the following setups:

GTI, stock bars:
eibach springs, tokico shocks:
- crappy michelin mxv4's
- dunlop sp8000
- pirelli p7000

bilstein coilovers, 400/300:
- pirelli p7000
- some shitty kelly tires
- kumho v700
- toyo ra-1

bilstein colovers, 500/300:
- pirelli p7000
- toyo ra-1


Jetta, stock bars:
Stock:
- crappy kelly tires
- dunlop sport a2

Ground control 300/200 w/bilsteins:
- dunlop sport a2
- toyo ra-1
- falken azenis


GTI is corner-balanced, 2.5 deg. of negative camber in the front, zero toe,
and solid rear axle bushings. Jetta is at 1.5 deg. negative, zero toe.  Both
cars have the control arms at or just barely past parallel (i know), and
they sit level.

and under no circumstances in any of those setups would I say that I've been
able to "easily" get the tail to come out.  It either involves going in way
hot and letting off the gas, left foot braking, or pulling the e-brake.

What sort of tires are you running? Are your rears bald? :)


----- Original Message -----
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: [A2-16v] handling questions and answers


> Let's remember that Golfs and Jettas have different weight distributions.
> Let's remember that most of us are running different tires.  Let's also
> remember that we're all running slightly different suspension setups.
>
> All these things affect the handling, and therefore different
> bars/shocks/camber settings, etc will give different results to different
> people.
>
> For example, I run stock swaybars, and I can get the tail out on my car
> pretty easily.  Others can't.
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