With all this talk about different suspension setups...anyone have the Shine
setup(springs and rear bar) for sale by chance?

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Pelletier [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:23 PM
To: John Caldwell; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [A2-16v] handling questions and answers


put on a shine rear bar then try that again : )  


--- John Caldwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> What is the rest of your setup, and under what
> circumstances can you get the
> tail to come out? E-brake?  I've driven my cars with
> the following setups:
> 
> GTI, stock bars:
> eibach springs, tokico shocks:
> - crappy michelin mxv4's
> - dunlop sp8000
> - pirelli p7000
> 
> bilstein coilovers, 400/300:
> - pirelli p7000
> - some shitty kelly tires
> - kumho v700
> - toyo ra-1
> 
> bilstein colovers, 500/300:
> - pirelli p7000
> - toyo ra-1
> 
> 
> Jetta, stock bars:
> Stock:
> - crappy kelly tires
> - dunlop sport a2
> 
> Ground control 300/200 w/bilsteins:
> - dunlop sport a2
> - toyo ra-1
> - falken azenis
> 
> 
> GTI is corner-balanced, 2.5 deg. of negative camber
> in the front, zero toe,
> and solid rear axle bushings. Jetta is at 1.5 deg.
> negative, zero toe.  Both
> cars have the control arms at or just barely past
> parallel (i know), and
> they sit level.
> 
> and under no circumstances in any of those setups
> would I say that I've been
> able to "easily" get the tail to come out.  It
> either involves going in way
> hot and letting off the gas, left foot braking, or
> pulling the e-brake.
> 
> What sort of tires are you running? Are your rears
> bald? :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:36 AM
> Subject: [A2-16v] handling questions and answers
> 
> 
> > Let's remember that Golfs and Jettas have
> different weight distributions.
> > Let's remember that most of us are running
> different tires.  Let's also
> > remember that we're all running slightly different
> suspension setups.
> >
> > All these things affect the handling, and
> therefore different
> > bars/shocks/camber settings, etc will give
> different results to different
> > people.
> >
> > For example, I run stock swaybars, and I can get
> the tail out on my car
> > pretty easily.  Others can't.
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