On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 21:26 +0100, Shawn Cassar wrote: > on the other hand many gamers told me Waldonet is great, but they only > mention maltese > servers, not US servers, and SOE (of star wars) doesn't want to put a > maltese server :)
They might be talking about the PlayReaction (PR) servers.. which are hosted by Waldonet if I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, then no wonder gaming is fast - but only on PR servers. Keith > > > >From: "Vitaly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Malta Linux User Group - general list > ><[email protected]> > >To: "'Malta Linux User Group - general list'" <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Re: Internet latency times > >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:13:15 +0100 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from gateway.megabyte.net ([194.158.32.149]) by > >bay0-mc12-f3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 26 > >Jan 2006 12:13:54 -0800 > >Received: from mailserv.megabyte.net ([194.158.35.131]) by > >gateway.megabyte.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 26 Jan > >2006 21:13:42 +0100 > >Received: from mailserv.megabyte.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])by > >mailserv.megabyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTPid 8E78DF427; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 > >21:07:03 +0100 (CET) > >Received: from legolas (EXT_FIREWALL [194.158.35.1])by > >mailserv.megabyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF202F394for > ><[email protected]>; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:06:59 +0100 (CET) > >Received: from smpt2.ittltd.com ([217.15.100.105]) by legolas with > >MicrosoftSMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:13:37 +0100 > >Received: from xp by forgotten_realms.com (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R)with ESMTP > >id md50000043236.msgfor <[email protected]>; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:11:43 > >+0100 > >X-Message-Info: EoYTbT2lH2MhiPBVv9yJ6ZX161qHcqg/0L8Xcqe9UMg= > >X-Original-To: [email protected] > >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-MSMail-Priority: High > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 > >Thread-Index: AcYh0gP29bQQ7j2pTI69eZVNk1DzqwA4leXg > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > >X-Authenticated-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-Spam-Processed: mx, Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:11:43 +0100(not processed: > >message from valid local sender) > >X-MDRemoteIP: 217.22.189.11 > >X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [email protected] > >X-MDAV-Processed: mx, Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:11:44 +0100 > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2006 20:13:37.0798 > >(UTC)FILETIME=[FE073260:01C622B4] > >X-BeenThere: [email protected] > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: Malta Linux User Group - general list <mlug-list.linux.org.mt> > >List-Unsubscribe: > ><http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list>,<mailto:[EMAIL > >PROTECTED]> > >List-Archive: <http://mailserv.megabyte.net/pipermail/mlug-list> > >List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >List-Subscribe: > ><http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list>,<mailto:[EMAIL > >PROTECTED]> > >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >OnVOl business connection - 460-480 Kbytes/sec, no traffic limits, p2p > >filtering, pings under 20 msec to most servers in Malta and it is FAST!!!!! > > > >27 Lm/month + VAT. > > > >Anyone who wants to have one can change and upgrade from home user > >connection. > > > >Waldonet, Maltanet and IT&T has decent conditions as well. > > > >Vitaly > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >On Behalf Of Keith Vassallo > >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:04 PM > >To: Malta Linux User Group - general list > >Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Re: Internet latency times > > > >Hi Conrad, > > > >I agree that for people who use the Internet lightly, any local ISP will > >provide a good enough Internet service. However, when I mentioned "good > >ISP" > >I was referring to the needs of Graham, which I assumed (correctly) needed > >to make heavy use of the service. This is the reason why I doubt a local > >ISP > >will provide him, or myself, with a good enough service for our needs - > >unless you're ready to pay of course. I have in fact contacted several ISPs > >trying to get on a business connection - which supposedly has better > >service > >at a higher price. However, even though I'm registered as self employed and > >have a VAT number, nobody will give me a business connection. Also, regular > >home users are not able to get a business connection. > > > >I personally don't download any illegal software what-so-ever. If many > >people did the same, then not a fourth of the people who complain about the > >Internet would complain. However, I do download a lot of Linux ISOs, Gentoo > >updates, program demos etc..., even as part of my work. It is for this > >reason that I simply can't work with bandwidth limits. > > > >In the UK, the trend is now to remove limits. Both AOL and Telewest provide > >an ADSL service with no limits for 14.99 a month. Of course, I'm not > >expecting local ISPs to be able to compete (that's insane!) however, this > >trend of offering an unlimited service is now spreading throught several > >European countries, including France, Sweden etc... > >etc... > > > >You also mention that we should not subscribe to ISPs of local monopolies. > >Can you tell me how? Since Datastream is now Maltanet, which is an ISP, and > >which is the company selling bandwidth to other ISPs, no matter what ISP I > >choose I always end up paying Maltanet/Datastream. > >Basically, if everyone switched away from Maltanet, Maltanet would still be > >in business. One would have to switch to an ISP which only buys bandwidth > >from Vodafone... I don't know of any ISP which does this myself. I'd be > >glad > >to find out. > > > >What might be interesting is that now several local ISPs are researching, > >or > >testing, wireless broadband connection services, with some ISPs offering up > >to 6Mbit. We'll have to wait and see. > > > >Keith > > > >On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 09:38 +0100, Conrad Laus wrote: > > > Hi Keith, > > > > > > I`ve been working with an ISP for the past six years and I have the > > > inside version of the facts. Your comment about "good ISP" and "Malta" > > > being a paradox is not correct. From my experience different people > > > have different expectations and no isp is able to cater for all the > > > different tastes and desires. If you think that this only applies for > > > Malta then you are wrong. > > > > > > Broadband limits by Volume started in other countries a number of > > > years before they started in Malta. Telephone support provided by most > > > large ISPs in other countries is on expensive pay by the minute phone > >numbers. > > > In Malta this has not been the case. > > > > > > Then again, keep in mind that in other countries, Liberalisation and > > > real competition in the Telecoms sector has started around 10 years ago. > > > In Malta we have not yet started for all is still controlled > > > directly or indirectly by the old monopolies. > > > > > > At the end of the day, it is known that levels of service in any > > > sector only improve when real competition is promoted. Government has > > > little interest at the moment in promoting this for he would be damaging > >his > > > own company and those of political friends. As users, I think we > > > should promote this by not subscribing with the ISPs of the old > >monopolies. > > > > > > This way, the non monopoly funded ISPS will grow stronger and be able > > > to provide better services. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Conrad > > > > > > Keith Vassallo wrote: > > > > Hi Shawn, > > > > > > > > IMHO, "good ISP" and "Malta" are quite a paradox. Anyway, I've tried > > > > several ISPs: > > > > > > > > Maltanet: Great speeds, but with a 12GB download limit (depends on > > > > which plan you choose) > > > > Waldonet: I was with Waldonet for two months. Phoned for support > > > > four times. Nevery got a reply. Switched to another ISP. (This is > > > > just my experience though, not saying Waldonet have bad support). > > > > Bellnet: They say the speeds are quite good. A friend of mine > > > > complains that he has no idea what limits his bandwidth has, since > > > > Bellnet use the Datastream (ehem, I should say maltanet) lavender > > > > service, the last time I checked. Also, if you want to setup a home > > > > server, forget about bellnet. > > > > Keyworld: No download limits, but you only get decent speeds at night. > > > > I'm supposed to have a 2Mbit connection but download with > > > > half-megabit speeds. > > > > Melitanet, your current ISP: Don't even think about them. > > > > > > > > Again, this is only my experience and opinion, your experience may > >vary. > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 06:37 +0100, Shawn Cassar wrote: > > > > > > > >>Sorry people to jutt in like this. I am new to the list but have > > > >>been following linux and it's developments since I was a kid, have 3 > > > >>comps at home (including my lappy) running Mandrake only (no dual > >boot). > > > >> > > > >>I am seeing you talk about isp ping rate, I too am with Melitanet > > > >>and I want to change ASAP cause the service and performance is > > > >>terrible, plus they are charging me Lm21 per month for nothing. > > > >> > > > >>So, in your opinions which are the best 2 isps right now? (One with > > > >>download limits and the Other without). > > > >> > > > >>I have been told to either switch to Bellnet or to Waldonet. > > > >>Anybody has experience about any of these 2 during peak hours? > > > >> > > > >>Thanks alot > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Waldonet offers unlimited downloads too. A bit on the expensive > > > >>>side though.. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Keyworld offers unlimited downloads, actually (I dont work at > > > >>>>Keyworld hehe). > > > >>>> > > > >>>>On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 04:08 -0800, Graham Petley wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> The response time is quite variable. Recent pings give: > > > >>>>>$ ping -c 10 kh.google.com (about 1245) > > > >>>>>--- kh.l.google.com ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, > > > >>>>>10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9034ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = > > > >>>>>143.385/188.061/399.220/87.340 ms > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>$ ping -c 10 kh.google.com (about 12.55) > > > >>>>>--- kh.l.google.com ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, > > > >>>>>10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9039ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = > > > >>>>>80.242/85.977/89.495/2.958 ms > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>In fact, this morning Google Earth, whch was simply not > > > >>>>>responding yesterday evening, was working fine. I suppose 20:45 > > > >>>>>in the evening is a peak time to California. I use Melita Cable > > > >>>>>as my ISP. I would shift if anyone offered unlimited downloads, > > > >>>>>but I don't think anyone does. > > > >>>>>My web site is still slow :-( > > > >>>>>$ ping -c 10 vlsitechnology.org (about 12.56) > > > >>>>>--- vlsitechnology.org ping statistics --- 10 packets > > > >>>>>transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9019ms rtt > > > >>>>>min/avg/max/mdev = 211.454/215.173/222.490/3.495 ms > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>- Graham Petley > > > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>MLUG-list mailing list > > > >>>>>[email protected] > > > >>>>>http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>-- > > > >>>Captain Alan Muscat > > > >>>403. 'Zephyr', > > > >>>Mikiel Ang. 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