Hi, just following your message, i'd say that i totally agree, as a Linux admin for years, and using GNU/Linux as the only environment at home, i just found xfce as a good alternative.
Still simple and efficient, we switched here to Xubuntu and we are pretty satisfied with it. Alexandre. Le samedi 18 février 2012 à 15:29 -0500, Peter a écrit : > From the user perspective this is simply a massive regression. Used > to have an environment that worked out of the box and did the expected > things, without being forced to think about it. There were rough > edges, but they were improving, one had a real sense of progress. Now > both KDE and gnome have gone all modern Art on us, and things that > used to be simple are often changed beyond recognition or entirely > missing. Users have to make conscious choices, and curate their own > experience. what comes in the box, in most cases, is now > broken, puzzling opto-tactile sculptures. I used to try to advocate > for others to use linux, but with the massive regressions of the past > year or two, I just cannot do it with a straight-face any more. It > currently just looks like the efforts are fragmenting in all > directions, and as a whole, we are losing mountains of effort to lost > causes. While I don't see any facts to support the view... > > > my only faint hope is that in a year or two it will settle down, and > something usable will come out of it. > > > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Nick Accad <[email protected]> > wrote: > And that is his point. > > The distro does not matter anymore, it is the GUI and the apps > that people care about, not the underlying engine. > > I do not agree with the adapt or die concept here. The point > of having different DEs was to have choice: you do not like > Gnome, there is KDE, too pretty? Use XFCE. > > But what happened is that most distros standardized on Gnome > and invested time and money to make sure the apps work well > with it, and then the Gnome devs came and said: time to change > everything. Sounds familiar? > > Users are complaining right and left, and the Gnome devs are > refusing to acknowledge them, and the distros are not > listening except Mint and the others who did not default to > Gnome. > > I refuse to adapt to something I do not like, I do not have to > accept death as the only alternative, I can switch (thank you > XFCE, KDE...), I can fork (thank you Mint), instead of > adapting to the environment, I can change the environment > (thank you GPL). > > -nick > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie S Satenstein <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:57:34 > To: Montreal Linux Users Group<[email protected]> > Reply-To: Montreal Linux Users Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Blog entry on the MLUG listserve website. > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > [email protected] > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > [email protected] > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > [email protected] > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca _______________________________________________ mlug mailing list [email protected] https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca
