On 23 September 2010 23:02, Michael Campbell <[email protected]>wrote: > > I may be misreading what you're saying here, but for me, review is review; > in or out of the system; there is no distinction. Whether or not I remember > what the system is showing me when it shows me only affects my rating of it > going forward, which affects when it will show it to me next. If I happen > to have had an "out of system" review, I'll remember it better and rate it > higher, so I don't see it as often in the system. But out of the system > review does affect the schedule in an indirect way, because the "extra" > review will affect my real memory, so I'll continue to rate that card higher > and push the next review further and further out. > > In short, mnemosyne and "real life" aren't different for me; the "real > life" reviews only serve to also train me, and mnemosyne helps fill in the > gaps with its timing, which is affected by my ratings, which is affected by > both in and out of system reviews. > > This is the ideal, but in reality things are a little different. There are a few situations where things that are "learned" in an SRS are not really learned in real life - for example, you're struggling to remember a word which you /know/ you know, since you remember easily answering the card whenever it appears in Mnemosyne.
It's been discussed in a couple of language learning blogs that rather than learning a card by its pure "content", we often remember it only in the context of the SRS program we're using and fail to retrieve it in other situations. This often happened to me when I started out with spaced repetition learning with Pauker; I realised that I was often able to predict the next scheduled card due to the simplicity of its batch system. Mnemosyne and other modern programs are less predictable, but it's very easy to write cards in such a way that the answer pops into the head as soon as you look at them, without actually /thinking/ about the meaning behind the question - especially if you're lazy like me and put too much content on the front side of the card. I don't think it's a major problem, but it probably does affect everybody to some degree. > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dan Schmidt <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Sep 22, 4:11 pm, mzatanoskas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Bonus question/thought: how does mnemosyne/SRS theory deal with the >> > fact that flashcards/information we learn aren't confined to the SRS >> > software environment/individual flashcard themselves. What I mean by >> > that is, say I have a flashcard "X". This flashcard is never going to >> > be the only place that contains that information. Depending on the >> > card I'm going to come across this info outside mnemosyne more or less >> > often, and thus get "bonus" reviews that mnemosyne cannot take into >> > account. >> >> This definitely affects me. I use Mnemosyne to remember chess >> openings, both ones I am currently using and ones that I have on the >> back burner. I fail a significantly larger fraction of the non-active >> ones, because I am not constantly being forced to review them in real >> life outside of Mnemosyne. I can't think of a good way to account for >> it, though. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<mnemosyne-proj-users%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/mnemosyne-proj-users?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<mnemosyne-proj-users%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/mnemosyne-proj-users?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mnemosyne-proj-users?hl=en.
