Hello Ed,
I'd like to share, how I am learning Turkish grammar and other things (by the
way with German on the question side of the card ;), only for the grammar part
though. The other cards are Turkish-English). At the beginning I only learned
vocabs, after that I created three cards for each grammar rule. For each
Turkish case (Accusative, Dative,...) I created one card containing a table,
which summerizes it's grammer rules. I created another card, which lists, when
to use the case. And another card, which lists all the preposition of the case.
To speed up the creating of cards I use to copied vocab/grammar lists from the
internet to text files. That way I could create hundreds of cards fairly
quickly. To do this is a little bit tricky though, because you have to insert
tabs in between the questions and answers.
@Peter: It would be very helpful, if you could use other separators instead,
because it's tricky to insert tabs automaticly, for example with
Find-And-Replace.
I started to learn Turkish about 1 year ago and have learned about 800 vocabs
and the Turkish cases so far (2-3 vocabs a day) . Until now, I did not start to
learn sentences/tenses yet, I must confess.
In my opinion spaced repetition is most useful for short questions and short
answers. Therefore I would start with vocabs and things that are not sentences
(for example the cases and tenses), until you know the words used in the
sentences by heart.
One of my friends learned to talk French fluently in one year. She was living
in France during this year and she didn't know any French vocabs nor grammar at
the beginning of her stay. I had 7 years of French in school and could not talk
any better then her after staying the same amount of time in France.
My self-experiment is it to learn about 3000 Turkish words (about 90% of the
words used in daily conversations), the grammer (not sentences!) and then I
want to find a tandem partner, start building sentences and talking. I think
this is the quickest way, you can learn a language, when you are not in the
country, where this language is spoken. My guess is, that you can learn to
speak a language fluently in about 3 to 4 years of spaced repetition and with
finding a tandem partner.
Children know about 5000 word, when they are 6 years old
(http://logopaedieimteam.de/index.php?id=96 <-- Here you can learn some German
;)). Apparently they learn about as many word (2.3) as I do per day. :)
If there are some people out there, who want to learn Turkish and talk English,
then I would really like to exchange cards with you. French-Turkish or
German-Turkish would be great too. :)
I really like Mnemosyne, because of it's simplicity and the nice community
(this mailing list).
Ok, Ed, I hope, this was interesting to you.
Greetings,
Abakus
Am 28.10.2015 um 09:24 schrieb Peter Bienstman:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I suggest you play around with both programs and then pick the one you like
> best.
>
>
>
> For Mnemosyne, I can say that I tried to make a piece of software that is as
> intuitive as possible to pick up for the non-specialist, while still
> providing lots of flexibility.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed S
> Sent: 27 October 2015 19:50
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Who has learned German grammar using
> Mnemosyne?
>
>
>
> Many thanks, Peter, for your personal response. I especially appreciate it
> because I know how busy you are.
>
> To make the cloze questions and answers is a considerable investment of my
> time. Now I am faced with the decision of whether to use Mnemosyne or Anki
> for this task, the two best flashcard softwares that I have found.
>
> Is there anything special about Mnemosyne that makes it better suited to this
> task?
>
> Hope you don't mind me asking this question :)
>
> Thanks again, Ed
>
> On 26 Oct 2015 12:15, "Peter Bienstman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > There are two approaches I’ve used in the past. One is simply to have a
> > question to recite the correct grammar table as answer. Another is cloze
> > deletion exercises: as question you have an example sentence with the
> > correct ending removed, which you then have to fill in as the answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed
> > Sent: 26 October 2015 12:47
> > To: mnemosyne-proj-users <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Who has learned German grammar using
> > Mnemosyne?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, I'm trying to learn things like adjectival endings and definite
> > articles in German.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone used Mnemosyne successfully to learn German grammar? How did you
> > do it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Did you, for example, ask a grammar question, then have the endings part of
> > the answer underlined or in red font?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
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