Thanks for your reply.

Some progress, but still no cigar.  I got my hands on some URLs and an Ericsson/ATT
R280 phone (not quite a WAP phone, but the gateway converts from WML to HDML).  I
successfully accessed WML, HDML and even some HTML sites with that phone, using
http.

I then found an HDML site that supports https access (on a - yuck - IIS/NT server
https://www.storagepoint.com).  I successfully accessed it from the phone.  I tried
your site www.toorak.com with the phone with http and it worked, but with https I
got the message: "Web service problem: please try again", with a "1012: Cannot
connect to service" detail.

I also successfully accessed HDML and WML code on two SSL enabled servers in our
site (merlin.theelab.com-IIS/NT and kestrel.theelab.com-Apache/mod-ssl/Linux).  But
https fails even though it succeeds from a Web browser.

What all these things lead me to believe is that perhaps there is a diffferent type
of certificate being used for mobile devices/emulators (WAP/HDML).

Thanks again,

bruno

Bruce wrote:

> OK, the answer in not definitive BUT httpS doesn't appear to work with the
> Nokia simulator but this doessn't mean that its not possble on real life
> WAP device.
>
> The (Apache mod_ssl) server doesn't get the https request so the command
> doesn't seem to be leaving the simulator. HTTP requests work perfectly.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Bruce.
>
> >I'm not sure if this is correct.
> >The Nokia simulator IMPLIES that httpS does in fact work although I currently
> >do not have a valid vertificate to test it out on. BUT the tracing
> >mechanism is NOT showing an error...
> >
> >
> >There is a an excellent decsription on how to setup sites for WAP browsers
> >on Page 12 of the July issue of the brilliant Linux Journal.
> >"Configuraing Apache for Wireless Browsers" and it can be done on 6 lines!!!
> >
> >AND IT WORKS... try http://www.toorak.com ON YOUR WAP DEVICE. (Standard
> >access will get the standard page!!!) https doesn't exist on this node but
> >I will test it out today.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bruce.
> >
> >
> >>It was my understanding that the WAP forum (as well as all of the WAP gateway
> >>vendors) claim that even though you need extra components for a mobile
> >>device to
> >>encrypt the communication between the device and the WAP gateway, the
> >>communication between the WAP gateway and the web server is supposed to
> >>use SSL
> >>and more specifically https.
> >>
> >>Are you saying that is not so?   Or are you saying that you don't know the
> >>answer
> >>and that the people at the WAP forum might know why the gateway to
> >>Apache/modssl
> >>might not be working when using https?
> >>
> >>In the meantime I'll check again with the WAP forum.
> >>
> >>bruno
> >>
> >>Bal�zs Nagy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bruno Melloni wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I am absolutely new to modssl, so I apologize if this is a stupid
> >>> > question.  I successfully built and installed Apache with modssl.  I can
> >>> > access the home page from a web browser via http://server.domain.com and
> >>> > via https://server.domain.com.
> >>> >
> >>> > But I what I really want to do is serve .wml pages to WAP devices and
> >>> > emulators.  I have no problem when I try to access
> >>> > http://server.domain.com/hello.wml, but I keep getting cryptic server
> >>> > messages when I use an https://server.domain.com/hello.wml URL.  I have
> >>> > tried using different gateways and different mobile devices as well as
> >>> > emulators with no luck.
> >>> >
> >>> > Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong?  And please feel free to
> >>> > refer me to any documentation that might explain this in detail.
> >>>
> >>> WAP does not support HTTPS. There are several standards in the works to
> >>>enable
> >>> secure comunnications with a mobil device. This is out of topic for this
> >>>list.
> >>> For more info, go to WAPforum.org
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> bn
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