has anybody got an idea, how many licenses were sold of monotouch?
2011/5/17 NokNok Developer <[email protected]> > That would not be true. Im assuming it was an asset purchase, as the > assets of Novell included the Mono Business unit, to which they > continued to maintain (even if a few days following the acquisition). > So yes they have a legal obligation to all contracts within that unit as > well. What is worth looking into seriously is a class action suit, as > not only is Attachmate on the line, but so is the D&O and business > liability insurance carried by the companies. > > The was a "wilfull" act on the part of the part of Attachmate the owner > of the Novell "stock"/assets. With that being said, the decision done > by the executives and or board, will also have a liability to knowingly > and willfully violate contractual agreements. > > I do think if truly Attachmate has left MONO out to dry, the only > pressure which would produce a resolution of releasing the IP, or > monetary refunds, or damages - loss of revenue, cost of reorginzation of > software, loss of investments, etc would be thru some course of legal > action. They have already shown their feelings about not caring about > the users of the product in the decision they have made, it would be > foolish to think they will wake up tomorrow and have a change of heart > and do the right the thing. > > It it smells like, walks like a duck, guys its a duck. Dont expect > positive from them, when all to date has been lies, and under dealing. > > Shawn > > > On 5/17/2011 10:20 AM, Justin Hansen wrote: > > I don't think it's violation of contract. We made a contract with > > Novell. I don't think Attatchmate has an obligation to uphold the > > contracts Novell put in place. > > > > Justin Hansen > > > > On May 17, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Natalia Portillo<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA256 > >> > >> This all smells like a flagrant violation of contract. > >> > >> We have contracted 1 full year of support and updates, and unlimited > working time of the last version we get in that year. > >> > >> Using the 30-day refund is not an option, neither it is for lastest > MonoTouch and MonoDroid versions to stop working and activating. > >> > >> Attachmate must provide a solution (a refund PLUS an activation-less > version or giving all the IP and contracts to Miguel's company). > >> > >> Many of us are start-ups that have spent a lot on the licenses, in the > hope of the full year contract, and not all would be able to spend the money > twice (Attachmate + Miguel). > >> > >> This is not just bad news, Attachmate is dooming a lot of us to the > bankrupt or the absolute loss of competitiveness. > >> > >> El 16/05/2011, a las 22:22, Karl Heinz Brehme Arredondo escribió: > >> > >>> Was just an idea to them, I don't know If their're watching and without > >>> ideas lol > >>> > >>> On 16/05/11 17:53, "Dimitris Tavlikos"<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> If Attachmate was so noble, we would not be having these discussions > now. > >>>> ;) > >>>> > >>>> Dimitris Tavlikos > >>>> Software Developer > >>>> Email: [email protected] > >>>> Twitter: @dtavlikos > >>>> Blog: http://software.tavlikos.com > >>>> > >>>> 16 ??? 2011, 23:49, ?/? Karl Heinz Brehme Arredondo > >>>> <[email protected]> ??????: > >>>> > >>>>> At least, Attachmate could DONATE MonoTouch and MonoDroid for his > >>>>> intellectual owners/creators and transfer licenses. So they can work > in > >>>>> new things and give us support... > >>>>> > >>>>> On 16/05/11 17:43, "JohnnyNoMates"<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> 3 weeks? Where did you see that the new software would be available > in > >>>>>> 3 > >>>>>> weeks? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> View this message in context: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://monotouch.2284126.n4.nabble.com/So-what-happens-now-tp3527335p352 > >>>>>> 73 > >>>>>> 82.html > >>>>>> Sent from the MonoTouch mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> MonoTouch mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> MonoTouch mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> MonoTouch mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) > >> Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > >> > >> iF4EAREIAAYFAk3SgVkACgkQv/wfOsykIRQACQD9ESCtXkSaNPyStm2GK/qaIh5j > >> PhZrSEsUAgv7KYKpbogA/AqXFLgzZDUtWY7G8QPGNbkaJcFWPGObt5oEZcLY/YqH > >> =EfeG > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MonoTouch mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > > _______________________________________________ > > MonoTouch mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > _______________________________________________ > MonoTouch mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > -- Mit freundlichem Gruß,* Andreas Plötzeneder* CEO *ihr ploetzeneder it-solutions Team **Mobile Development*<http://www.ploetzeneder-it.com/softwareentwicklung/mobile-development.html> * – **Desktopanwendungen*<http://www.ploetzeneder-it.com/softwareentwicklung/desktop-anwendungen.html> * – **Webanwendungen*<http://www.ploetzeneder-it.com/softwareentwicklung/web-anwendungen.html> * Tel:* +43 720 30 30 24 10 *Fax:* +43 720 30 30 24 20 *Email:* [email protected] *web: *http://www.ploetzeneder-it.com Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail samt aller Anhänge ist vertraulich und ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. 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