For me it's actually moot, being my updates expired about 3 days before the whole thing went down....
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 00:34, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> wrote: > Class action suits work differently then regular suits. In the few I've been > in, all I had to do was fill out a form which took ten minutes, wait 8 > months, and received a check for the settlement amount. The lawyers make the > money from the overall quantity of those that sign on and in many cases they > force the defendant to pay there fee for making us take them to court, thus > getting the full refund back for the clients they represent. Attach mate also > broke their end of a contract, so they wouldn't be in a position to control > if it is credit or not. That would be like you canceling a cell phone > contract, then simply giving them some of your unwanted stuff of equal value > to what is owed rather then paying any fees. Even if the license terms > stipulate that we donated the fee to them and they were not obligated to > provide anything in return, it would take a very crooked judge to agree that > those terms are not fraudulent and unreasonable > > The biggest risk would involve the amount of people that sign on to the suit, > which would immediately relate to the amount of a return a firm can expect to > get paid for winning. They would look over the case and it's likely chance of > winning, then if they found it to be in the client's favor they would poll > how many individuals are interested in signing on. Anyone with the time to > read these lists is not so busy coding that they can't fill out a form, but > the risk is still there that not many people care about a couple hundred > dollars. That's the whole push behind mail in rebates, a company rarely gets > concerned of paying for them. > > Unfortunately, I don't know any class action firms, so it's a null point. I'm > hoping someone else does, though. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:40 PM, "Nic Wise" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Go for it, but I'm with Jason (and also not in the US). I make more in >> a month and a half than the cost of the license, and my apps don't >> sell _that_ well. >> >> And to be honest, I'd rather write apps than try to get compensation. >> It's a better use of my time. >> >> But there is no way I'd stop you doing it. I'd read the license terms >> tho. Your "pay out" could be ($499 / 12 months * number of months >> left). Even if it was a corporate license, an hour or 2 of lawyer time >> would be eaten up. If it worth spending the time for, say, $150 in >> Attachmate credit? (being it's seldom a cash payout) >> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:33, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> You are assuming that there are class action cases worth tens of millions >>> all over the place. There are actually a lot of less then rich lawyers >>> because they have to compete for the same cases; I can't see a lawyer >>> choosing to starve then accept a $20k+ paycheck for a month or two worth of >>> actual work, but then again I'm not a lawyer and they might choose the >>> principle of begging on the street then work for less then a certain amount. >>> Just think of the lawyers who take a case of medical malpractice worth $10k >>> to $15k; if they had soo many million dollar cases, they would constantly >>> turn down those "low profile" cases. It's like a software developer never >>> working for less then $40 an hour and choosing to get food stamps instead >>> because the good paying jobs are gone; this is rarely the case, and people >>> always take less then thrilling jobs while hoping for something better. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:24:47 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [MonoTouch] Class action lawsuit? >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> CC: [email protected] >>> >>> not even a bad lawyer would be interested in a class action with a $40k >>> liability. They're interested in cases in the tens of millions. >>> I'm as pissed as anyone at Attachmate, but suing them is just going to make >>> the lawyers richer, and give you an ulcer in the process. >>> At this point I'm content to wait and see what Xamarin comes up with. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know a good class action lawyer that would be interested >>> in pursuing Attachmate to get some of the license fees refunded to current >>> paid owners? I bet their is at least $40k worth of licensing that Attachmate >>> is not supporting per the purchase terms. This is especially pertinent to >>> those that are having license activation problems and cannot even use the >>> deployment portion of the IDE. >>> ~Chris >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MonoTouch mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MonoTouch mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nic Wise >> t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise >> b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ >> >> mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket. >> http://goo.gl/IuBU >> Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa >> London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding! >> http://goo.gl/Icp2 > _______________________________________________ > MonoTouch mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch > -- Nic Wise t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket. http://goo.gl/IuBU Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding! http://goo.gl/Icp2 _______________________________________________ MonoTouch mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
