I dont mind the monotouch part as much as getting suckered into buying the pile of shit that is/was monodroid. Shame on me for trying to financially support a decent idea - should have waited for it to age a bit before busting out my credit card. $199 for a worthless broken steaming pile of dung. More than one person at Asstachmate must have known the real story before they cooked up the 'we are showing our gratitude to our loyal customers by offering monodroid at half off' (I.e. "Here is our chance to rectally invade the mono community one more time before they figure out what a bunch of pond scum douching asshats we are") marketing campaign.
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2011, at 2:56, Nic Wise <[email protected]> wrote: > For me it's actually moot, being my updates expired about 3 days > before the whole thing went down.... > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 00:34, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> wrote: >> Class action suits work differently then regular suits. In the few I've been >> in, all I had to do was fill out a form which took ten minutes, wait 8 >> months, and received a check for the settlement amount. The lawyers make the >> money from the overall quantity of those that sign on and in many cases they >> force the defendant to pay there fee for making us take them to court, thus >> getting the full refund back for the clients they represent. Attach mate >> also broke their end of a contract, so they wouldn't be in a position to >> control if it is credit or not. That would be like you canceling a cell >> phone contract, then simply giving them some of your unwanted stuff of equal >> value to what is owed rather then paying any fees. Even if the license terms >> stipulate that we donated the fee to them and they were not obligated to >> provide anything in return, it would take a very crooked judge to agree that >> those terms are not fraudulent and unreasonable >> >> The biggest risk would involve the amount of people that sign on to the >> suit, which would immediately relate to the amount of a return a firm can >> expect to get paid for winning. They would look over the case and it's >> likely chance of winning, then if they found it to be in the client's favor >> they would poll how many individuals are interested in signing on. Anyone >> with the time to read these lists is not so busy coding that they can't fill >> out a form, but the risk is still there that not many people care about a >> couple hundred dollars. That's the whole push behind mail in rebates, a >> company rarely gets concerned of paying for them. >> >> Unfortunately, I don't know any class action firms, so it's a null point. >> I'm hoping someone else does, though. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:40 PM, "Nic Wise" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Go for it, but I'm with Jason (and also not in the US). I make more in >>> a month and a half than the cost of the license, and my apps don't >>> sell _that_ well. >>> >>> And to be honest, I'd rather write apps than try to get compensation. >>> It's a better use of my time. >>> >>> But there is no way I'd stop you doing it. I'd read the license terms >>> tho. Your "pay out" could be ($499 / 12 months * number of months >>> left). Even if it was a corporate license, an hour or 2 of lawyer time >>> would be eaten up. If it worth spending the time for, say, $150 in >>> Attachmate credit? (being it's seldom a cash payout) >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:33, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> You are assuming that there are class action cases worth tens of millions >>>> all over the place. There are actually a lot of less then rich lawyers >>>> because they have to compete for the same cases; I can't see a lawyer >>>> choosing to starve then accept a $20k+ paycheck for a month or two worth of >>>> actual work, but then again I'm not a lawyer and they might choose the >>>> principle of begging on the street then work for less then a certain >>>> amount. >>>> Just think of the lawyers who take a case of medical malpractice worth $10k >>>> to $15k; if they had soo many million dollar cases, they would constantly >>>> turn down those "low profile" cases. It's like a software developer never >>>> working for less then $40 an hour and choosing to get food stamps instead >>>> because the good paying jobs are gone; this is rarely the case, and people >>>> always take less then thrilling jobs while hoping for something better. >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:24:47 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [MonoTouch] Class action lawsuit? >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> CC: [email protected] >>>> >>>> not even a bad lawyer would be interested in a class action with a $40k >>>> liability. They're interested in cases in the tens of millions. >>>> I'm as pissed as anyone at Attachmate, but suing them is just going to make >>>> the lawyers richer, and give you an ulcer in the process. >>>> At this point I'm content to wait and see what Xamarin comes up with. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Chris Hamblett <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know a good class action lawyer that would be interested >>>> in pursuing Attachmate to get some of the license fees refunded to current >>>> paid owners? I bet their is at least $40k worth of licensing that >>>> Attachmate >>>> is not supporting per the purchase terms. This is especially pertinent to >>>> those that are having license activation problems and cannot even use the >>>> deployment portion of the IDE. >>>> ~Chris >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MonoTouch mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MonoTouch mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nic Wise >>> t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise >>> b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ >>> >>> mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket. >>> http://goo.gl/IuBU >>> Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa >>> London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding! >>> http://goo.gl/Icp2 >> _______________________________________________ >> MonoTouch mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch >> > > > > -- > Nic Wise > t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise > b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ > > mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket. > http://goo.gl/IuBU > Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa > London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding! > http://goo.gl/Icp2 > _______________________________________________ > MonoTouch mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch _______________________________________________ MonoTouch mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monotouch
