On Sep 30, 5:32 am, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok, I am talking little too much so I just try to sum up my point. > > From my perspective as a senior developer this whole "elitish" thing > "mootools is for developers" makes me sad. . . .
> This students I hired could work with mootools earlier but there are > really no entry points to mootools except Joomla. There are almost no > brilliant controls out there that make people awe, mootools page is > dull and boring and general message from the core devs is "if You are > not javascript mastahacka mootools is NOT FOR YOU". The one and only > promotional site for mootools is brilliant David Walsh blog. . . . > Ok, enough the rant ;), thanks for all the hard work, > Robert I would have to agree with this a lot. When I started up doing web design again, I wanted to find out how to do flash things, without flash. As I scoured the web looking for websites with great animation I would check to see if they used flash to do it. I found a few sites that didn't. They used this MooTools thing. Cool I said. I looked up MooTools and found the demos. I was unimpressed but knew the greater power of the crummy changing boxes. Long story short, I set out on a very rocky road to learn MooTools. Boy did it piss me off. The forum seemed all but useless. Very un- active and un-helping community (no offence, but I was used to osCommerce, I didn't have to ask, someone already did and it was answered) And the documentation made very little sense. I blamed my lack of Javascript knowledge and hammered through. The result was this website here, http://www.idoweddingsaway.ca/ It works, but is kind of written funny. I wanted to do more work - some lightbox features. I struggled to find what I was looking for in mooTools and ended up using fancybox for jStuff. I thought, maybe I will learn that framework instead and drop mooTool. But as I ventured into jQuary I found it really didn't offer me the type of flexibility I wanted. So I decided to just stick with mooTools. This resulted in our new redesigned page here http://www.starlingdesign.ca/ I guess what my ramblings are trying to get at is; 1. The page should make me say, wow! This looks awesome. (You don't need any Javascript to do that, just good layout and graphics) 2. The function of the page should make me say, wow! that was cool. (here is where MooTools should do it's song and dance, just don't take a lot of time to do it - navigation should be simple, obvious, and fast) 3. YOU NEED BETTER "hey I am a beginner, how do I use this stuff" documentation. A really dumbed down step by step list on how to make your own "crummy little morph box" once you can do that, venture out to the forums, and mess with the demos. If you don't redesign like that, don't bother. Why layout the dictionary over and over if it is always going to be the same old bland thing. You might as well copy Apache or php.net (yawn) This also does not mean the whole site has to be graphical and dance for you, but the home/index page sure as hell should. Once you move on to the documentation it can go encyclopaedia on you. (it'll load faster that way anyhow)
