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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Erik Cervin Edin <e...@cervined.in> wrote: > This is cleaner, > nice work! > > I agree that a redesigning the site would send a strong message. Or > rather, that the site as it is doesn't look maintained. There's nothing on > the site that gives the indication that the framework is being updated or > worked on. Since most people will only see the MooTools website & not > places like this Google group, I don't think it's strange > people perceive the framework/community as 'dying'. Evidently from this > group, however, the community is still very much active and I think it's > important that this shows. > As you've mentioned before Aaron, the primary focus of MooTools has not > been community, so I gather that valuable time & resources were probably > less so spent on maintaining the website. I think it is important, however, > to spend more time & resources on the MooTools website & its Social > Media channels, as they represent MooTools externally. People will make > superficial assumptions about the MooTools community and the framework, > based on MooTools' online presence. I think this is a great first step in > showing people that this show is still going on. > > > Btw, here are some Alexa stats: > http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/jquery.com > http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mootools.net > > I had no idea that jQuery had such a good site ranking, it's 761! (Moo is > at 26,333) > jQ has a lot of sites linking in: 43,055 vs Moo's 5,971 > > A big reason for jQuery's success seems to be the SEO snowball like effect > created by its large community. Constantly talking about, referring and > linking to the framework, pulling in more and more users. As these users > learn the framework, they post queries (pun intended), building upon > the knowledge base and attracting new users. The circle repeats itself, > building a Web 2.0 community that has become very effective at promoting, > maintaining and supporting the framework. > > I think Moo has a lot to gain from a stronger community. A good place to > start seems to be increasing the engagement of the existing community and > getting out more user-generated content that relates to the framework, on > top of keeping its external presence vibrant. This can be simple stuff - > answering questions on message boards, explaining & linking to the > documentation, providing alternative MooTools solutions to jQuery ones etc. > Doing a little bit each person, and as a group, building a stronger > community. > > -my €0.02 > > But yeah Benjamin, loving the work, keep at it. > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Benjamin Kuker < > cont...@virtuosimedia.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback, everyone, I'm glad you like the general >> direction. A couple follow-up questions before I update the mocks: >> >> - My original intention was for the download button to just link to >> the download page, where you could customize your build and download older >> versions as well. I didn't put the version number on it because, in my >> mind, that implied just a direct download of that specific version, >> whereas >> the generic download label would be less confusing if it led to the >> download page. Still, that an incredibly small detail and I'm fine either >> way. >> - I can definitely shrink the main icons. I think I want to add a >> fifth one in there for the docs page anyways, so that works. >> - How would you feel about adding a "Resources" page to the main >> navigation? I didn't include the books on the front page because I thought >> they might be better suited for a page like that, but I could add them >> back >> in if people think the front page is the best spot for them. >> - Would it be too spammy to include a link to my UI framework in the >> footer if the redesign utilizes it? The framework itself is open source, >> MooTools-based, and not a direct clone/port of Bootstrap, but it will >> eventually have an optional commercial tool/service for it as well. I've >> put a *ton *work into it and hope that it will eventually become the >> MooTools alternative to Bootstrap. Taking in your suggestion, Aaron, I was >> thinking about a link along the lines of "Made responsive with VM UI >> Framework". However, if people feel uncomfortable about that, I could >> leave >> it out of the footer. >> - I forgot to add anything related to Media Temple. What exactly is >> the relationship? Are they a sponsor? Should I add something similar to >> the >> current site? >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MooTools Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to mootools-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MooTools Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mootools-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MooTools Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mootools-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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