Why fill it in? Because it's looks awful if you linen-back and you don't fill it in. I too think you're a little too fanatical about this. Linen-backing can help preserve a poster which over time, even if it is in MINT condition, will begin to show wear at the fold separations and may start to chip or fray at the edges. If you have a red-ink distributor's stamp on the back or other writing or tape on the back of the poster, they will all begin to bleed through if you don't have restorer fix this properly. I would personally prefer a well-restored linen-backed Gentleman's Agreement poster to the unrestored one you are featuring on Ebay which frankly is starting to have the bleeding problems I mentioned. This is not to say that all restoration is equal. At lot of bad restorers paint all over the poster to cover missing paper and defects. This is not good, if you paint over a mustache or pen marks, it will through the poster eventually. And painting over missing paper is just plain bad. There's a really popular yearly auction that has LB one sheets with paint all over the posters. That's why I buy nothing from this auction unless I hold it up to the light and check for missing paper. A really good restorer will not do this. They add paper for missing spots and use the paint brush sparingly. You'll have these posters for years to come and they'll look great when displayed. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] FS: dont buy it, but please JUST READ MY EBAY DESCRIPTION!!!! in response to dario, and consistent with my prior MOPO posting, i am not against linen posters that are merely placed on linen, per se......... but i hate posters that have turned into an oil painting and dealers who lie about pre-backing condition.
chunks of added paper???? give me a break!!!! i have sveral one sheets on linen that had no restoration, but just placed on linen. that's fine. if there is a chip or a seam issue, why fill it in? my main point was that one should not be scammed on ebay into believing that the pre-condition was, necessaily, mint just because the seller said so. i have returned several oil paintings through the years! and, i have received 3 emails on this subject today from "shy" MOPO members telling me how they have been scammed with linen items. i do not buy linen pieces unless i know the seller. and i do not buy from sellers who have tiny ebay pics, and tell me they dont have access to a camera to send larger pictures. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE SHOULD SEEK HONESTY & DISCLOURE. Restoration affords an opportunity to scam. Buying a poster on ebay requires caution. Buyer a linen piece in person is a different story. And I am sure that those $100,000++++ posters to which you referred were examined closely by the buyer and acquired through an ebay snipe. My advice was targeted for ebay users. And i am sure that you won't disagree with that. i thank you for your opinion, and, perhaps, we are not so opposite in our thoughts. michael -----Original Message----- From: Dario Casadei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:23 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] FS: dont buy it, but please JUST READ MY EBAY DESCRIPTION!!!! Hi Michael, I am sorry to hear about your experience with the LB poster that did not meet up to the dealers grading. I can honestly say( maybe because I have a trained eye ) I have never seen a restored poster with undetectable repairs, and I've seen restorations from the average restorer to what is considered by many to be the best in the business. all repairs are visible from up close, angles or through light, as you describe in your auction. So for me this business about undetectable is BS. I must say, you sound a bit frantic about Linen backing in your listing, but I value your opinion. You also say <<< REMEMBER MY SUGGESTION: Buy this poster at the cheap opening price and frame it as is. >>> Clearly to me, Gentleman's Agreement would look better and fetch more money if restored. I also disagree with your suggestion " Leave as is" all that tape on the back will destroy the poster, as is evident already in the upper center.That is a beautiful poster, but it needs help. I can see you already tried with some archival Tape ;-) As temporary caretakers it is our responsibilities to take good care of our posters, so future generations can enjoy them. Conservation, Restoration and Storage solutions, what ever is necessary, it must be done. It's funny that the most expensive posters in the world are all linen backed, Metropolis, Mummy, Dracula and so on. Best of luck with you auctions and Happy New Year!! dario. Doug Taylor wrote: Well, I have virtually every single-sided poster linen backed. I feel it improves the presentation and preservation. If a poster was Mint before backing, I actually lower the grade to Near-Mint after backing because I don't feel it's fair to call a poster Mint if it has had anything done to it. Having said that, I believe that my Mint copy of Gone With the Wind, Style CF is just as valuable as Near Mint linen backed as it was Mint unbacked. I also believe that Fine posters that are linen backed and look Very Fine or Near Mint are more valuable. JMHO DBT <http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor> Profile _____ From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Danese Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] FS: dont buy it, but please JUST READ MY EBAY DESCRIPTION!!!! Michael - I appreciate your ideas on linen backing, and I agree! Thanks! Michael Danese _____ From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOPO] FS: dont buy it, but please JUST READ MY EBAY DESCRIPTION!!!! i have been getting many positve comments about my description of one of my posters on ebay. look at the description, just to see my discussion on linen-backing. presently, there are 9 ebay watchers, although i suspect it might sell for the for the low to mid $200s---which would be an outright steal. link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200187345226&ss PageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=010> &rd=1&item=200187345226&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=010 check out my other ebay items, also michael _____ See AOL's top <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> rated recipes and easy <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> ways to stay in shape for winter. 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