I could write a *BOOK* on this subject! It was this change (more so than the
price increases) that caused me to leave eBay entirely.

Why in the world would eBay *educate* their buyers as to what the DSRs mean,
when it is MASSIVELY to their benefit that buyers *misunderstand* them?
Every buyer who leaves a "4" or a "3" (meaning they were satified) MAKES
eBay lots of money in discounts they no longer have to give (and remember
that these are discounts off of a huge price increase, and the end result is
still higher fees).

There are many sellers who went to *FREE SHIPPING* who have seen their
"shipping cost" star *DECREASE*!  How is that possible? Apparently many
buyers think that when shipping is free they should leave a "3" on shipping
cost.because it "doesn't apply"! Some of these sellers have gone to 99 cent
shipping cost and seen a dramatic rise!

Of course, there never should have been a "shipping cost" star in the first
place, for two reasons. First because buyers are not shippers, and they
don't know what it *DOES* cost to send items, so how in the world can they
judge? Second, who in the world ever thinks shipping costs are *LOW*? Of
course a buyer would rather pay less, but the issue is how much did it cost
to send, not how much do they *WISH* it cost!

If eBay wanted to greatly improve this, they could ditch the shipping cost
star, and replace with "How likely are you to order from this seller
again?", which would be the most important star of all.

But eBay is run by thugs and idiots, who treat their sellers like punks and
idiots, so I don't see this changing anytime soon.

If you are a seller, you might consider including consigning to
eMoviePoster.com as part of your overall selling plan. If you look at the
prices we get minus the commission we get, you might well see that for some
of your inventory we can sell your items where you will net more money that
you would on eBay, and we do all the work (and more importantly handle all
the frustrating aspects of selling).

Many of the main dealers in this hobby regularly consign to us as part
of their overall selling plan, and if *YOU* are not one of them, you might
consider doing so, especially as eBay gets wackier and greedier.

Bruce

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Franc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Sean---- I complained about this several weeks ago and you must have
> missed the reply I got on MOPO from some joker who said he leaves 4 stars
> when he gets his purchases promptly because that is what he expects. He
> would only rate someone a 5, if they went out of their way to hand-deliver
> his purchase. Unfortunately on Ebay many buyers are jerks and Ebay's rating
> systems and discounted final value fees are set-up to sound as if something
> is being given away by Ebay as an incentive, but in reality, Ebay knows it
> will be next to impossible for the dealer to avail himself of these
> discounts. FRANC
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sean
> Linkenback
> *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2008 11:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
>  *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd
>
>    Same thing has happened to me Freeman.
>
> Since I moved to exact shipping charges (not even counting the cost of
> tubes or masonite), my shipping has dropped below 4.7 instead of the 4.9
> that it was.
>
> And my shipping time has taken a hit from overseas customers – I guess they
> all want priority for regular airmail prices or something, as they keep
> lowering my rating even though I usually ship within 48 hours.
>
> The eBay system is designed to pretty much give 4 stars on average – look
> at what the ratings say when you rate someone next time you buy something.
>
>
>
> Description:
>
> 4 stars – accurate
>
> 5 stars – very accurate
>
>
>
> Communication
>
> 4 stars – satisfied
>
> 5 stars – very satisfied
>
>
>
> Shipping Time
>
> 4 stars – quickly
>
> 5 stars – very quickly
>
>
>
> Shipping Charges
>
> 4 stars – reasonable
>
> 5 stars – very reasonable
>
>
>
> So if someone thinks exact postage is reasonable, they will leave 4 stars –
> get enough 4 stars and you will get thrown off eBay now.
>
> You send an email saying an order is shipping (maybe automated) – ok, I
> think that's satisfactory communication so I leave 4 stars and again I'm
> helping you get thrown off eBay.  Someone gets a package from you in a week,
> that seems quickly right?  Ok check the 4 stars again and you're another
> step closer to not being able to sell anymore.
>
> eBay needs to take better steps to inform buyers that 4 stars is a BAD
> rating and could result in sellers not being allowed to sell, they are
> basically saying if you describe your items accurately, communicate
> satisfactorily, ship quickly and charge a reasonable amount for shipping
> they don't want you as a seller because that is the definition of 4 star
> behavior.
>
>
>
> Sean
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2008 7:02 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd
>
>
>
> Mopoers,
>
> I just checked on my  seller status or whatever the hell its called on Ebay
> as its the first of the month.  I now have a lowered listing status due to
> my shipping in the last 30 days coming in with a 4.5 average rating and not
> 4.6.
>
>
>
> I went back to my feedback and at least the first 10 or 20 praise me for
> fast and expert shipping.   80%  of my sales in August were overseas but the
> bulk of those have hardly left feed back.  100% of those shipping charges
> were short a couple of dollars what I charged  to as high as $10 short.   Is
> it possible if people just leave feedback and don't trouble with the number
> ratings  that its being averaged as zero?   Plus its completely false.  This
> is so screwed.  My user ID is flixspix if you can find something I am not
> seeing.  Oh and my one negative is a retaliatory posting after filing
> a negative against a seller after sending a money order for $500 that he
> cashed before I could reverse and not receiving my poster.  And that seller
> has gotten 3 more negs since mine and he is still on Ebay.
>
>
>
> Khafka  had a word for this bullsh*t.
>
>
>
> freeman
>
>
>
> freeman fisher
> 8601 west knoll drive #7
> west hollywood, ca
> 90069
>
>
>
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>
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