Thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately there are some folks when they leave a rating they has no idea of the implications vis a vis the commisions the sealer is obliged to pay to Ebay (regardless of Ebay's level of service or lack therof) who routinely leave lower than a 5, even though the service has been exceptional as you've defined it below. I even had someone leave me a 3 rating because they found paying by PayPal too confusing, something I have no control of whatsoever. Unfortunately your advice "ignore the feedback -- obsessing over perfect feedback is dumb " is not realistic when one is faced will trying to earn a living by selling on Ebay. FRANC
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:14 AM To: Franc; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd I think that I might be that "joker". What I said was: "Personally, I expect posters I buy to arrive undamanged -- if they do -- well, thats pretty much average -- exceptional would be you dropping it by in person." The point was that I was attempting to convey: "Pack well" ... "ignore the feedback -- obsessing over perfect feedback is dumb." The fact that eBay uses the feedback numbers to control the behavior of the application and can affect the seller's rates -- well thats just a screwing -- but its not my fault. I should not have to lie on the feedback form just to pacify the seller. I made no indication about how many stars that I would leave for shipping charges. Which, now that I think of it, would be 5 if the package was packed well and the actual cost was within a couple of dollars of the charged cost. Evan -------------- Original message -------------- From: Franc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sean---- I complained about this several weeks ago and you must have missed the reply I got on MOPO from some joker who said he leaves 4 stars when he gets his purchases promptly because that is what he expects. He would only rate someone a 5, if they went out of their way to hand-deliver his purchase. Unfortunately on Ebay many buyers are jerks and Ebay's rating systems and discounted final value fees are set-up to sound as if something is being given away by Ebay as an incentive, but in reality, Ebay knows it will be next to impossible for the dealer to avail himself of these discounts. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd Same thing has happened to me Freeman. Since I moved to exact shipping charges (not even counting the cost of tubes or masonite), my shipping has dropped below 4.7 instead of the 4.9 that it was. And my shipping time has taken a hit from overseas customers - I guess they all want priority for regular airmail prices or something, as they keep lowering my rating even though I usually ship within 48 hours. The eBay system is designed to pretty much give 4 stars on average - look at what the ratings say when you rate someone next time you buy something. Description: 4 stars - accurate 5 stars - very accurate Communication 4 stars - satisfied 5 stars - very satisfied Shipping Time 4 stars - quickly 5 stars - very quickly Shipping Charges 4 stars - reasonable 5 stars - very reasonable So if someone thinks exact postage is reasonable, they will leave 4 stars - get enough 4 stars and you will get thrown off eBay now. You send an email saying an order is shipping (maybe automated) - ok, I think that's satisfactory communication so I leave 4 stars and again I'm helping you get thrown off eBay. Someone gets a package from you in a week, that seems quickly right? Ok check the 4 stars again and you're another step closer to not being able to sell anymore. eBay needs to take better steps to inform buyers that 4 stars is a BAD rating and could result in sellers not being allowed to sell, they are basically saying if you describe your items accurately, communicate satisfactorily, ship quickly and charge a reasonable amount for shipping they don't want you as a seller because that is the definition of 4 star behavior. Sean _____ From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd Mopoers, I just checked on my seller status or whatever the hell its called on Ebay as its the first of the month. I now have a lowered listing status due to my shipping in the last 30 days coming in with a 4.5 average rating and not 4.6. I went back to my feedback and at least the first 10 or 20 praise me for fast and expert shipping. 80% of my sales in August were overseas but the bulk of those have hardly left feed back. 100% of those shipping charges were short a couple of dollars what I charged to as high as $10 short. Is it possible if people just leave feedback and don't trouble with the number ratings that its being averaged as zero? Plus its completely false. This is so screwed. My user ID is flixspix if you can find something I am not seeing. Oh and my one negative is a retaliatory posting after filing a negative against a seller after sending a money order for $500 that he cashed before I could reverse and not receiving my poster. And that seller has gotten 3 more negs since mine and he is still on Ebay. Khafka had a word for this bullsh*t. freeman freeman fisher 8601 west knoll drive #7 west hollywood, ca 90069 _____ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. 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