I think that I might be that "joker".

What I said was: "Personally, I expect posters I buy to arrive undamanged -- if 
they do -- well, thats pretty much average -- exceptional would be you dropping 
it by in person."

The point was that I was attempting to convey: "Pack well" ... "ignore the 
feedback -- obsessing over perfect feedback is dumb."

The fact that eBay uses the feedback numbers to control the behavior of the 
application and can affect the seller's rates -- well thats just a screwing -- 
but its not my fault.  I should not have to lie on the feedback form just to 
pacify the seller.

I made no indication about how many stars that I would leave for shipping 
charges.  Which, now that I think of it, would be 5 if the package was packed 
well and the actual cost was within a couple of dollars of the charged cost.  

Evan


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From: Franc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Sean---- I complained about this several weeks ago and you must have missed the 
reply I got on MOPO from some joker who said he leaves 4 stars when he gets his 
purchases promptly because that is what he expects. He would only rate someone 
a 5, if they went out of their way to hand-deliver his purchase. Unfortunately 
on Ebay many buyers are jerks and Ebay's rating systems and discounted final 
value fees are set-up to sound as if something is being given away by Ebay as 
an incentive, but in reality, Ebay knows it will be next to impossible for the 
dealer to avail himself of these discounts. FRANC



-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Linkenback
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd


Same thing has happened to me Freeman.
Since I moved to exact shipping charges (not even counting the cost of tubes or 
masonite), my shipping has dropped below 4.7 instead of the 4.9 that it was.
And my shipping time has taken a hit from overseas customers – I guess they all 
want priority for regular airmail prices or something, as they keep lowering my 
rating even though I usually ship within 48 hours.
The eBay system is designed to pretty much give 4 stars on average – look at 
what the ratings say when you rate someone next time you buy something.
 
Description:
4 stars – accurate
5 stars – very accurate
 
Communication
4 stars – satisfied
5 stars – very satisfied
 
Shipping Time
4 stars – quickly
5 stars – very quickly
 
Shipping Charges
4 stars – reasonable
5 stars – very reasonable
 
So if someone thinks exact postage is reasonable, they will leave 4 stars – get 
enough 4 stars and you will get thrown off eBay now.
You send an email saying an order is shipping (maybe automated) – ok, I think 
that’s satisfactory communication so I leave 4 stars and again I’m helping you 
get thrown off eBay.  Someone gets a package from you in a week, that seems 
quickly right?  Ok check the 4 stars again and you’re another step closer to 
not being able to sell anymore.
eBay needs to take better steps to inform buyers that 4 stars is a BAD rating 
and could result in sellers not being allowed to sell, they are basically 
saying if you describe your items accurately, communicate satisfactorily, ship 
quickly and charge a reasonable amount for shipping they don’t want you as a 
seller because that is the definition of 4 star behavior.
 
Sean
 



From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MOPO] This Is Patently Absurd
 
Mopoers,
I just checked on my  seller status or whatever the hell its called on Ebay as 
its the first of the month.  I now have a lowered listing status due to my 
shipping in the last 30 days coming in with a 4.5 average rating and not 4.6.
 
I went back to my feedback and at least the first 10 or 20 praise me for fast 
and expert shipping.   80%  of my sales in August were overseas but the bulk of 
those have hardly left feed back.  100% of those shipping charges were short a 
couple of dollars what I charged  to as high as $10 short.   Is it possible if 
people just leave feedback and don't trouble with the number ratings  that its 
being averaged as zero?   Plus its completely false.  This is so screwed.  My 
user ID is flixspix if you can find something I am not seeing.  Oh and my one 
negative is a retaliatory posting after filing a negative against a seller 
after sending a money order for $500 that he cashed before I could reverse and 
not receiving my poster.  And that seller has gotten 3 more negs since mine and 
he is still on Ebay.   
 
Khafka  had a word for this bullsh*t.
 
freeman 
 
freeman fisher
8601 west knoll drive #7
west hollywood, ca
90069






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