Am I allowed to whine about those who complain about those who whine?

I was told by eBay top management, "Don't complain, love eBay or leave it",
so I did!

Bruce

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, CK MacLeod <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Count me out.  I've had problems with eBay over the years, sometimes big
> problems, but I find all of this complaining about it tiresome.
>
>
>
> I suppose a few of you wish it didn't exist at all, but I think it's
> overall been a boon to the hobby.  It's still a great place for a dealer
> to reach customers who aren't part of the "in crowd" of collectors, and who
> rightly or wrongly feel more secure making a purchase on eBay than they
> would through other on- and off-line venues.  It's also brought out a lot
> of "supply" that otherwise would still be rotting in basements and
> cubbyholes somewhere, and it's good for making contact with new consignors,
> too.
>
>
>
> eBay also happens to be great place to get deals on the whole universe of
> things you might ever want to get a deal on, and of which collectible "movie
> paper" occupies a very tiny spot.
>
>
>
> *CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com* <http://ckmac.com/>
>
> *Kymar's on eBay <http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>*
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]*on Behalf Of *Bruce
> Hershenson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:54 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [MOPO] When do YOU think was the moment when eBay "jumped the
> shark"?
>
>
>
> I think almost all of us can agree that eBay has clearly "jumped the
> shark"*. But exactly *WHEN* do you think this happened? When did eBay make
> the move that changed it from a company with a bright future, and started it
> on its current downhill path? Of course, there is no one "right" answer, but
> I have my own opinion, which I will gladly share once some of you voice your
> opinions.
>
>
>
> When do *YOU* think was the moment when eBay "jumped the shark"?
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> *N.B. According to Wikipedia, the phrase "jump the shark" refers to a scene
> in a three-part episode of the American TV series, *Happy 
> Days<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Days>
> *, first broadcast on September 20<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_20>,
> 1977 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977>. In the third of the three parts
> of the "Hollywood" episode, Fonzie (Henry 
> Winkler<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Winkler>),
> wearing swim trunks and his trademark leather jacket, jumps over a penned-in
> shark <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark> while water 
> skiing<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_skiing>.
>
>
>
>
> Even before "jumping the shark" was employed as a pop culture term, the
> episode in question was cited many times as an example of what can happen to
> otherwise high-quality shows when they stay on the air too long in the face
> of waning interest—or when they simply cease to maintain quality standards
> for writing or acting, resorting to cheap sensationalism etc. The infamous
> scene was seen by many as betraying *Happy Days'* 1950s setting (as well
> as reversing its earlier character-developments, as noted above) by cashing
> in on the 1970s fads of Evel 
> Knievel<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evel_Knievel>
> [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark#cite_note-0> and 
> *Jaws<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_(film)>
> *. Producer Garry Marshall <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Marshall>later 
> admitted that he knew the show had lost something as the crew prepared
> to shoot the scene. As Marshall pointed out in the reunion special that
> aired on February 3 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_3>, 
> 2005<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005>,
> however, *Happy Days* went on to produce approximately 100 more episodes
> after the "jumping the shark" episode. During the same special, in response
> to an audience member's question, Marshall introduced the notorious clip and
> noted how the show had inspired the term.
>
> The first public 
> use[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark#cite_note-1>of the 
> phrase as a direct metaphor is reported to have been on December
> 24 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_24>, 
> 1997<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997>,
> when the *jumptheshark.com <http://www.jumptheshark.com/>* website was
> launched by Jonathan M. Hein <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hein>.
> According to the site, the phrase was first coined by Hein's college
> roommate, Sean J. Connolly, in 1985. The term first appeared in print in the
> April 9 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9>, 
> 1998<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998>,
> *Los Angeles Times <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times>*Calendar 
> Weekend section.
>
> The phrase has been used more recently outside the realm of popular
> culture, representing anything that has reached its peak and has declined in
> quality. If one thinks a stock or a sports team or a subcultural phenomenon
> has reached its peak, for example, one can say that it has "jumped the
> shark." The phrase can also be specifically, the phrase also refers to a
> particular *event* that *demonstrates* this decline beyond all doubt, such
> as whenever an entertainment company or business makes a grave mistake, and
> therefore rapidly loses ratings or fans, becomes bankrupt or is sold.
>
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