I'm no musician, but I AM a pro gambler, and it was 100% Adam Lambert would lose with one week to go.
Why? Because they announced on the show with 3 people that one million votes separated the top two, and then Gokey was voted off. Since it was 99.9% sure that everyone who voted for Lambert or Allen when there were 3 people would vote exactly the same when there were two people, it meant that those people who voted for Gokey would decide the winner, if over one million more of them voted for either Lambert or Allen. Gee, that was tough. Gokey was a church going widower, and those voters who liked those qualities had to choose between a church going married nice guy from a little town, or a flamboyent guy who wore makeup (forget his sexuality, although that surely didn't help). I don't think singing ability had anything to do with it, and that is the fatal flaw with American Idol. For that matter, there is the same flaw with politics. How many governors or Presidents have been elected the past 30 years who WEREN'T photogenic, and charismatic? That is why our country is in the mess it is in. The clowns and crooks who are running it have no clue how bad their decisions are, and to make matters worse, they often make their decisions on the basis of popularity polls. Bruce On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM, lobby card invasion <[email protected]>wrote: > Greg, you're in the music biz, and a Mavin in my books. > > I'm interested in your take as to the merits of Adam Lambert (American Idol > runner up) as a singer and a performer, and why he failed in the final vote. > > Zeev > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "jbirddouglass" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing > > > And into the fray steps G.D..... >> Carrie Underwood has a fantastic voice, but I would rather give oral >> pleasure to Oprah Winfrey than listen to Modern Pop Country, which, as a >> genre of music, makes me break out in itchy, pus-spewing hives. Underwood >> has a first-class set of pipes but is using them to sing, in THIS man's >> opinion, crap music. Shame on her. Give me Billy Joe Shaver or Kasey >> Chambers for country with balls (or in Chambers' case, ovaries. Her >> "Barricades and Brick Walls" tune makes me think about every psychotic >> ex-girlfriend I ever dated.). >> Kellie Clarkson is nowhere near the singer that Underwood is, she's gotten >> fat and weird, but I love her early, dumb teen rock singles. It's crap, but >> to moi, it's GREAT crap. It makes me act like Tom Cruise dancing around in >> his underwear in "Risky Business" (I know, TMI!). It's pure junk, but it's >> junk that moves me, kind of like the musical equivalent of an Ed Wood film. >> Susan Boyle? I hope she makes a lot of money, very quickly. She'll need it >> to pay for that prolonged stay in the mental institution she's destined for >> after dealing with the music business for a couple of years. Give me a call, >> Susie-sweetie-baby-cookie. We need to talk. >> In the end, arguing about music with somebody is like trying to teach a >> pig to dance; it's frustrating for you, and it's annoying to the pig. That >> being said, I still love to do it, and I will be hurt and confused for >> weeks if Rich doesn't send me a personal e-mail with the subject "Kellie >> Clarkson Stinks!" >> Back to movies...I saw "Up!" yesterday, and it's not just another home run >> for Pixar, it's a grand slam. Funny, moving, and there are lots of visual >> references to other films and pop images, the most obvious being the "King >> Kong" Empire State Building scene and the classic painting you see >> everywhere of dogs playing poker. I can't imagine anyone but the most >> curmudgeonly, fault-finding naysayer not liking this one. >> Greg Douglass >> Also of Scottish ancestry, and proud of it, despite that extra "S" on my >> name...(it's a long story...) >> Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: >> >>> Kelly Clarkson stinks >>> >>> >>> At 10:19 PM 6/1/2009, Jeff Potokar wrote: >>> >>>> hi judith, >>>> >>>> Regardless of rich's opinions on who the most listen to and who stinks.. >>>> one has to remember, this is only one guy's opinion, is not founded in >>>> fact, >>>> and would mean little to anyone who enjoys any of the artists he commented >>>> on. >>>> >>>> Underwood is primarily a country artist... and there are MANY who do not >>>> listen to this kind of music (just there are many that dont listen to pop, >>>> rap, jazz, classical etc). >>>> >>>> kelly clarkson, in my opinion, has a voice perfectly suited to the type >>>> of music she sings and does not stink. she's had many hits on the soft rock >>>> and pop charts and has a vibrant charisma (as does Underwood). >>>> >>>> >>>> jeff >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Judith Weaver wrote: >>>> >>>> *And the one who got kicked out early, Jennifer Hudson, has done more >>>>> than all the rest put together. And she is talented. >>>>> * Judith Weaver >>>>> 1457 Guava Avenue >>>>> Melbourne, FL 32935 >>>>> 321-514-4861 >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:00 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing >>>>> >>>>> the only Idol winner I think anybody really listens to is Carrie >>>>> Underwood who is a fabulous singer >>>>> >>>>> Kelly Clarkson stinks >>>>> Ruben Stoddard is blase >>>>> Fantasia is forgotten >>>>> Taylor Hicks was poorly managed >>>>> etc etc etc >>>>> >>>>> but Carrie Underwood is fabulous & has a long career ahead of her >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 11:39 AM 5/31/2009, Michael Greenwood wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello >>>>>> >>>>>> I think what this thread needs is a good dose of (youngish) >>>>>> blood and reality. Forget Susan Boyle now and beat the >>>>>> rest of the pack by a few months. Who listens to Kelly >>>>>> Clarkson? The joke is on anybody who thinks this is real >>>>>> talent and (insert favourite deity/celebrity here) help us >>>>>> if the Martians invade and hold these examples up as >>>>>> Earth's premium cultural exports. What has happened to our >>>>>> tastes? Are we really that lazy? >>>>>> Please, dear world, avert your gaze from these shows and >>>>>> invest your time and money supporting actually talented >>>>>> singers and songwriters rather than glitzed-up amateurs >>>>>> doing poorly executed covers of songs by, often, talented and >>>>>> forgotten people. Disregard the outcomes and the >>>>>> fickle fancies and support people who are worth investing >>>>>> in and need it badly at this time in the music industry. There >>>>>> is a ton of talent out there but you have to dig a >>>>>> bit and realize that it is not going to get to you as >>>>>> easily as your cable set-up and exposure on today's >>>>>> commercial radio is also pathetic and near nil for great >>>>>> talent and congested with crap, just like the current >>>>>> cinema climate. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you must meet me halfway, go with the new Camera Obscura >>>>>> album as they're Scottish and fantastic. I am available as >>>>>> a tutor in the field of challenging and rewarding >>>>>> contemporary music but I do not come cheap. >>>>>> Yours for the asking, >>>>>> Michael Greenwood >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31-May-09, at 2:22 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> i agree with you judith. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the dance group, Diversity, is a flash in the pan act >>>>>>> (i just watched them and the final results clip on >>>>>>> youtube).. and will be forgotten about in 3-6 months. >>>>>>> because of the world wide attention Boyle received, >>>>>>> (and talk about pressure), along with a pending >>>>>>> recording contract, her name and voice will live on >>>>>>> long after the 50-100 members of Diversity have gone >>>>>>> their separate ways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 31, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Judith Weaver wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bruce, I couldn't agree with you more! She may >>>>>>>> have been coached. I understand she has serious >>>>>>>> learning disabilities and apparently broke down a >>>>>>>> little recently under the pressure at some hotel >>>>>>>> in London. I noticed in some of the clips I saw >>>>>>>> of her during verbal exchanges with judges on the >>>>>>>> show, she acted a tiny bit like a nervous >>>>>>>> teen-ager rather than a nervous 47-year-old. But >>>>>>>> I thought she was extremely gracious when the >>>>>>>> winner was announced. And while I didn't hear >>>>>>>> the winning group perform, it would be difficult >>>>>>>> to convince me that they were better than Susan. >>>>>>>> Susan didn't really lose, however. She made more >>>>>>>> of a splash around the world than anyone has on >>>>>>>> that show. And I believe Simon Cowell is giving >>>>>>>> her a recording contract with his record >>>>>>>> company. I for one can't wait to buy her first >>>>>>>> CD. Happy summer to all MOPOers! Judith >>>>>>>> Judith Weaver >>>>>>>> 1457 Guava Avenue >>>>>>>> Melbourne, FL 32935 >>>>>>>> 321-514-4861 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Bruce Hershenson >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> To: >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: >>>>>>>> Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing >>>>>>>> Is it just me, or did anyone else think Susan >>>>>>>> Boyle conducted herself really nicely during >>>>>>>> losing? I liked how she handled herself >>>>>>>> before, during and after her last >>>>>>>> performance, and when they announced the >>>>>>>> winner. It was almost as though someone had >>>>>>>> coached her in exactly what to say and do. >>>>>>>> And the winners left me cold. They remind me >>>>>>>> of those guys (Stomp?) who make music with >>>>>>>> trash can lids. 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