Re: [MOPO] OT: Adam Lanbert

Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:07:16 -0700 

I thought James Whitmore was MORE your type!
Or Jay C. Flippen ~ ~

Love,
K.

On Jun 6, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:
You're absolultely right, Greg. WHAT was I thinking of???? How could I 
have forgotten Ernest Borgnine??  All the best, Judith


Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861
----- Original Message -----
From: "jbirddouglass" <[email protected]>
To: "Judith Weaver" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Adam Lanbert
As a professional musician...and let me hasten to say that makes me an expert on absolutely NOTHING, except movie posters... I am not envious of Lambert. (I am very envious of the dough he'll be making, however!) 
From what I've heard of him...and I listened to more stuff to become
more educated, by the way...his marvelous pipes are being used to commit 
what my ears hear as musical felonies. As far as being
homophobic,...let's see, I watched "Brokeback Mountain" in a theater
full of gay guys in SAN FRANCISCO (with my wife, I might add, the only person with ovaries in the theater), I'm not afraid to wear a fanny pack in public, and, oh yeah, I have a remarkably eclectic group of friends who I dearly love that includes various homosexual folk, straight people 
(both liberal AND conservative), cross-dressers, my best friend, and
other assorted weirdos, so I don't think THAT'S it. That being said, I 
honest-to-God kept waiting for Lambert to burst into flame at any
second. I'm sorry, the dude makes Liberace look like Clint Eastwood in 
"The Unforgiven".
Finally, Judith, how can you say "Why are all the gorgeous men gay?"
What about Ernest Borgnine?
Seriously, though, Judith, it's just a case of differing tastes. While I freely admit to a bias against all things "American Idol", Lambert made me especially mental. I applaud your admiration and lust for the young 
lad and wish him well, as long as he stays off my television.
Greg Douglass

Judith Weaver wrote:

As a woman, Adam Lambert is just another example of "Why are all the
gorgeous men gay?" He is without a doubt a HUNK! And I don't know 
another female who doesn't agree.  My hairdresser claims to be

completely
and totally IN LOVE with him. Personally, I think I'm merely IN LUST 
with

him.

There's another aspect to this:  Adam and his manager, etc., were

thrilled
he didn't win top spot. Now he's not obligated to Amer. Idol for the 
next 2
years to do ribbon-cutting ceremonies at the new A&P in Podunk, Iowa, 
etc.
He'll be on Broadway very soon. He's a first-class performer, an artist (many of the arrangements were his, others were Ricky Miner's), and a 
powerful set of pipes.  Oh, and did I mention that he is a gorgeous
HUNK??!!?!?!?!

Are you guys out there who dislike him envious or merely homophobic?

Judith


Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861


----- Original Message -----
From: "jbirddouglass" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Adam Lanbert




Hi Zeev,
I rarely watch "American Idol", but I did happen to see Adam Lambert do "Ring of Fire". My take was that the guy has a superb set of pipes, but 
he ruined...no, make that nuked... a wonderful song with his
over-the-top vocal histrionics. I hated his arrangement (as I noted

here
before, my wife asked me, "What did you think of that?" I replied, "It was...well, flaming.") but it's impossible to ignore the guy's vocal 
chops. I think that show has put so much emphasis on that Mariah
Carey-like, "Hey watch what I can do!" over-singing that these kids end up masturbating all over the song to impress those four mean- spirited nitwits. There's simply no art in it. As a guitarist, I value economy 
in
my playing, the right note at the right time. I rarely see that on A.I. As I said, that's the ONLY song I saw him sing, so my overview of the 
lad's talent is pretty myopic.
As to why he lost...Lambert's absolutely as gay as a handbag full of 
rainbows, despite his coyness in the press. As Proposition 8 in
California (and Miss California herself!) revealed, many people are not 
comfortable with that sexual orientation, especially when it is
expressed with such flamboyance in their living rooms. From what I'd heard from fans of the show, I thought the guy was a shoe-in for the 
top

spot, but I think people underestimated this nation's capacity for
pettiness and narrow-minded thinking. I do think that Lambert is a

smart

guy who will parlay all the hoopla into a decent career.
Thank you, Zeev, for asking, and I'm going to go tell my wife that
someone referred to me as a "maven" about something other than American 
International posters from the Fifties!!!
Greg Douglass
lobby card invasion wrote:


Greg, you're in the music biz, and a Mavin in my books.
I'm interested in your take as to the merits of Adam Lambert (American Idol runner up) as a singer and a performer, and why he failed in the 
final vote.

Zeev


----- Original Message ----- From: "jbirddouglass"
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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing




And into the fray steps G.D.....
Carrie Underwood has a fantastic voice, but I would rather give oral pleasure to Oprah Winfrey than listen to Modern Pop Country, which, as a genre of music, makes me break out in itchy, pus-spewing hives. Underwood has a first-class set of pipes but is using them to sing, in THIS man's opinion, crap music. Shame on her. Give me Billy Joe 
Shaver or Kasey Chambers for country with balls (or in Chambers'
case, ovaries. Her "Barricades and Brick Walls" tune makes me think 
about every psychotic ex-girlfriend I ever dated.).
Kellie Clarkson is nowhere near the singer that Underwood is, she's gotten fat and weird, but I love her early, dumb teen rock singles. 
It's crap, but to moi, it's GREAT crap. It makes me act like Tom
Cruise dancing around in his underwear in "Risky Business" (I know, TMI!). It's pure junk, but it's junk that moves me, kind of like the 
musical equivalent of an Ed Wood film.
Susan Boyle? I hope she makes a lot of money, very quickly. She'll 
need it to pay for that prolonged stay in the mental institution
she's destined for after dealing with the music business for a couple of years. Give me a call, Susie-sweetie-baby-cookie. We need to talk. In the end, arguing about music with somebody is like trying to teach a pig to dance; it's frustrating for you, and it's annoying to the pig. That being said, I still love to do it, and I will be hurt and confused for weeks if Rich doesn't send me a personal e-mail with the 
subject "Kellie Clarkson Stinks!"
Back to movies...I saw "Up!" yesterday, and it's not just another
home run for Pixar, it's a grand slam. Funny, moving, and there are lots of visual references to other films and pop images, the most 
obvious being the "King Kong" Empire State Building scene and the
classic painting you see everywhere of dogs playing poker. I can't imagine anyone but the most curmudgeonly, fault-finding naysayer not 
liking this one.
Greg Douglass
Also of Scottish ancestry, and proud of it, despite that extra "S" on 
my name...(it's a long story...)
Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:


Kelly Clarkson stinks


At 10:19 PM 6/1/2009, Jeff Potokar wrote:


hi judith,

Regardless of rich's opinions on who the most listen to and who
stinks.. one has to remember, this is only one guy's opinion, is not founded in fact, and would mean little to anyone who enjoys any 
of the artists he commented on.
Underwood is primarily a country artist... and there are MANY who do not listen to this kind of music (just there are many that dont 
listen to pop, rap, jazz, classical etc).
kelly clarkson, in my opinion, has a voice perfectly suited to the type of music she sings and does not stink. she's had many hits on the soft rock and pop charts and has a vibrant charisma (as does 
Underwood).


jeff




On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Judith Weaver wrote:
*And the one who got kicked out early, Jennifer Hudson, has done 
more than all the rest put together.  And she is talented.
* Judith Weaver
1457 Guava Avenue
Melbourne, FL  32935
321-514-4861

   ----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <mailto:sa...@comic- ART.COM> 
   To: [email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]>
   Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:00 PM
   Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle losing

   the only Idol winner I think anybody really listens to is

Carrie

   Underwood who is a fabulous singer

   Kelly Clarkson stinks
   Ruben Stoddard is blase
   Fantasia is forgotten
   Taylor Hicks was poorly managed
   etc etc etc
but Carrie Underwood is fabulous & has a long career ahead of 


her


   At 11:39 AM 5/31/2009, Michael Greenwood wrote:


       Hello

       I think what this thread needs is a good dose of

(youngish)
blood and reality. Forget Susan Boyle now and beat the rest of the pack by a few months. Who listens to Kelly Clarkson? The joke is on anybody who thinks this is real talent and (insert favourite deity/celebrity here) help 
us

       if the Martians invade and hold these examples up as
Earth's premium cultural exports. What has happened to 
our

       tastes?  Are we really that lazy?
Please, dear world, avert your gaze from these shows and invest your time and money supporting actually talented singers and songwriters rather than glitzed-up amateurs doing poorly executed covers of songs by, often, talented 
and forgotten people.  Disregard the outcomes and the
fickle fancies and support people who are worth investing in and need it badly at this time in the music industry. 
There is a ton of talent out there but you have to dig a
       bit and realize that it is not going to get to you as
       easily as your cable set-up and exposure on today's
commercial radio is also pathetic and near nil for great 
       talent and congested with crap, just like the current
       cinema climate.

       If you must meet me halfway, go with the new Camera

Obscura
album as they're Scottish and fantastic. I am available 
as

       a tutor in the field of challenging and rewarding
       contemporary music but I do not come cheap.
       Yours for the asking,
       Michael Greenwood

        On 31-May-09, at 2:22 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote:



           i agree with you judith.

           the dance group, Diversity, is a flash in the pan

act
(i just watched them and the final results clip on 
           youtube).. and will be forgotten about in 3-6

months.
because of the world wide attention Boyle received, 
           (and talk about pressure), along with a pending
recording contract, her name and voice will live on long after the 50-100 members of Diversity have gone 
           their separate ways.
On May 31, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Judith Weaver wrote:
Bruce, I couldn't agree with you more! She may 
               have been coached.  I understand she has

serious
learning disabilities and apparently broke down 
a

               little recently under the pressure at some

hotel

               in London.  I noticed in some of the clips I

saw
of her during verbal exchanges with judges on 
the

               show, she acted a tiny bit like a nervous
               teen-ager rather than a nervous 47-year-old.

But
I thought she was extremely gracious when the winner was announced. And while I didn't hear 
               the winning group perform, it would be

difficult

               to convince me that they were better than

Susan.
Susan didn't really lose, however. She made 


more
of a splash around the world than anyone has on 
               that show.  And I believe Simon Cowell is

giving

               her a recording contract with his record
company. I for one can't wait to buy her first 
               CD.  Happy summer to all MOPOers!  Judith
                Judith Weaver
               1457 Guava Avenue
               Melbourne, FL  32935
               321-514-4861

                   ----- Original Message -----
                   From: Bruce Hershenson
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<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Susan Boyle 
losing
                   Is it just me, or did anyone else think

Susan

                   Boyle conducted herself really nicely

during

                   losing? I liked how she handled herself
                   before, during and after her last
                   performance, and when they announced the
winner. It was almost as though someone had coached her in exactly what to say and do. And the winners left me cold. They remind 


me
of those guys (Stomp?) who make music with 
                   trash can lids. A little of that goes a

long

                   way with me.
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