Ken
what yousay here is 100% correct.
"aging out" or as a member on NSFGE said "deadification" is the most
dangerous thing there is to us old fellers now.
Clark Gable, Great Garbo, Clara Bow...... all great stars in their
time.. now.. poof!
Gable is now known to the under 35s by a single film - Gone With the
Wind. This guy was the biggest star of his time and was a box office
champ for years on end.. But he never made the Matrix, didn't have a
role in Kill Bill, never played Superman, never spoke any of Luke
Skywalker's lines and didn't fight the Terminator..
Movies, which are eternal, clearly do have a life-span to the larger
population.
I had a girlfriend a few months back that whenever I was going to put
a movie on always said "please.. none of those movies where they
don't speak (silent movies).. and she, like myself, was over 50. If
she can't watch a silent classic.. how are the kids of today going to
watch Clark Gable, or James Cagney??
Of course, I did indeed watch silents when I was a kid in NYC. On PBS
every weekend they had a silent and it is where I first saw things
like Metropolis, Siegfried and one of my favorites - Thief of Bagdad.
Anna May Wong was totally a boinking babe!!
But kids today don't have the same attention span we did.. I remember
when I was a kid that reading was fun!! Not so with kids today
Bicycling was fun.. To kids today, it's too strenuous
flipping baseball or Mars Attacks cards was fun. Today.. "don't do
that. You'll ruin your cards. They're collectible!"
we are in a different world than we were 40+ years ago when I was a kid.
The stuff kids like today has absolutely nothing in common with my
memories. But I do understand the difference and I also can
appreciate it from the other side:
when I hear rap music, or any of the garbage that has permeated music
the last 5-10 years, I remember my parents cringing at Jimi Hendrix,
the Doors or Blue Cheer
that was then.. this is now!
in the coming decade, things like video game boxes and equipment will
be big time collectibles
the first Atari computers will be looked at as seminal history to
these youngsters (actually already is)
but why is it sad to so many of my generation (and older generations)
that what WE liked is going to be forgotten??
it's simple.. it means our world is going to be forgotten and by
proxy, so are WE
the world is for the young, and sadly.. young we are no more.
Rich
At 10:24 AM 6/4/2009, Gerri Farrell wrote:
Help, I have work to do!
This is bringing me out of the shadows. Just to add to my last post.
My theory, after collecting and dealing in popular culture for 30
years now...we collect what gives us that special something from
around the time we were 8 to 16 or so. I don't see many people
collecting from their pre-verbal stage or what they remember from their 30s.
When a wave of collectors ages out, and the material no longer has a
new audience...that's it! Howdy Doody, Hopalong Cassidy, Humphry
Bogart, are aging out. When I started in this crazy business cast
iron toys, early Hollywood, Buster Brown were the rage. I don't see
too much new blood in these and many other areas. Let's give some
respect to the young collectors and the interest that they have in
areas that are a part of their lives.
What people choose to collect and the way they collect it varies
from personality to personality. Some collectors need to have
everything on a subject and organize it like a librarian, others
want to fill the top shelf in the kitchen with lunch boxes, when the
shelf is full they are done. Some collectors are sloppy, some are
neat, some are compulsive (must collect before I pay the mortgage)
and some are casual (that's nice, but not today). Why people collect
can be very private, everyone can't afford to step up to the plate
and buy what they want. I have always been thankful that I don't
sell food to families not able to afford it. I have never felt
guilty when asked if I could sell something for $100 instead of $200
because, "Hey, give me a break, I can't afford it". Sorry, it's only
a movie poster.
Also, If you can't understand why something from the 70s is a
fortune and another from the 30s is not, remember those laws of
supply and demand. They always apply. Wanting a poster from one
childhood can make it more valuable than wanting one from someone
elses childhood.
Ken Farrell
Now in deep at
Just Kids Nostalgia
-----Original Message-----
From: jbirddouglass <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Why I Don't Post
Ken,
First of all, thank you for not lurking. An excellent post.. Other
lurkers...if you do not participate, we will never get to know you,
and that's an sad thing. There are far too few of us in this hobby
as it is, and I like networking. with the other lunatics who share
my addiction. I know there's a fear thing with some of you after
seeing some of the flame wars on MOPO. While there may be the
occasional person who might disagree with you on something,, screw
'em; they don't have to die in your bed, right? ( I recently had a
minor disagreement with someone privately on this list. By
corresponding and working through the little bitch fest we had, we
actually got to know one another better, and I now have another
contact in the hobby.My life is now slightly richer because of some
very civil friction.)By lurking, you rob us of your experience and
expertise, so don't be stingy!
Back to Ken...you hit on an interesting point. The stuff that
becomes highly collectible for each generation changes with the
culture, but one thing remains the same; the most prized items seem
to be stuff that was considered worthless junk in its time to
everyone but the kids who experienced them. For me, it was movie
posters, Mars Attacks! cards, and MAD magazine. For my son, it was
baseball cards and Garbage Pail Kids; he buys and sells both
regularly on Ebay. Pre-fabricated collectibles like Beanie Babies
are sitting in warehouses; you cannot manufacture magic.
I guess no one can predict what will be The Next Big Thing but as
long as people pine for those special moments in their childhoods,
there will be "vintage" collectibles..
Greg Douglass
Gerri Farrell wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am known though my collecting business, Just Kids Nostalgia. I
read > MOPO most of the time but I never put my two cents in...why?
I am not > that comfortable with having my words and thoughts
posted for all to > see. I am "shy" on facebook and rarely send
conversational email.
>
> Is there anything wrong with "lurking"? I don't judge or
complain > about members opinions. As far as using MOPO for
advertising...I have > no problem with it.
>
> I think that the MOPO input in general ranges from informative
to > interesting to a waste of time and it adds greatly to the
hobby of > collecting movie posters. >
> But as long as I am here, this is my pet peave with some
collectors > and some of the society in general. What's with the
attitude of "these > kids today"?. Back in my day...the movies were
better, the music was > better, the toys were more fun to play
with, you could get on the > subway for a nickel (15 cents in my
day), everything was made better > and lasted longer and we were
all always happy.
>
> Get over it...things change, but most remain the same. There
were > always great movies, art and music, but most of it was
always bad. I > am not sure if those cool Buck Rogers rings that
came in the mail in > the 30s were better than Burger King toys
were to my kids. Are metal > toys better than plastic ones? I don't
think so. To the wide eyes of > an eight year old, most "toys" are
pretty cool.
>
> We all know technology is changing everything. Do you really
think > that Howdy Doody was more important to a generation than
Mario > Brothers or World of Warcft? What kind of memories will we
have about > the early days of the internet (we are still in the
middle of the > early days). Do you remember that wonderful sound
of dial up and > $3.00 an hour to surf the net at a speed that
would make us all scream > for a 14 year old to fix it?
>
> Things changed when the railroad came through. They are still >
changing. People always suffer when there is change, look at the Bates > Motel
>
> Let's not forget the wars and poverty that never end. It would be
nice > if they are only history to the next generation.
>
> OK, I went on and on...this is why I never post. I really want
to > delete this instead of sending it...Oh, what the heck!
>
> Ken Farrell
> Just Kids
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