Evan

I think you are missing several points about Bruce's offer

#1 Bruce is a dealer. he is offering a dealer purchase price so he can resell and make money

#2 Bruce obviously believes he has at least 2 bidders who will bid on the poster, but he probably doesn't believe the poster will achieve $486 again because the top bidder has just won himself a copy, so he's moving down to the level that the 2 underbidders would likely bid up to, which is probably closer to $300.

#3 after Bruce sells the next copy, the value continues to go down as he hopes to sell one to the #3 & #4 bidders. maybe $200

#4 then he hopes to sell one to the #4 & #5 bidders and again the price goes down to their level.


so $300 for 3 copies of a poster that I certainly couldn't get $486 for (and obviously Moe Everett couldn't get $20 for his copy) is more than likely - very fair. He isn't offering to buy the poster as a collector and your comparison of offering 1/3 for certain 30s-40s posters is most certainly not in line with Bruce's offer as what you're going to ask for is probably head and shoulders better than Nazi She-Bitch.

Also, if you were to consign to Bruce 3 copies of this poster and he got $300, $200 & $150 for them, you would receive $222, $144 and $108 or a total of $474, but you would have to wait a probable 12 months for all 3 copies to be sold, so his offer of $300 again is reasonably fair taking into consideration these factors

Rich


At 09:03 AM 8/18/2009, Evan Zweifel wrote:
Fair?  Really?  You think an offer of 1/3 is fair?

Do you have any nice posters in your collection? I will gladly offer you 1/3 of Bruce's last selling price for them. I am looking for some nice 1930s/1940s titles, good graphics, good titles, major stars.

I am serious. Let me know what you have.

Evan


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but, but, but,

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That sounds like a fair offer for someone who is a dealer and buying to re-sell. The next one might only go for $300 or less or may go $500 or more. I am sure Bruce would take one on consignment as well and if I had 5, I would keep one, consign one, and hold Bruce to the $300 for the 3 remaining. I wouldn't consider anything less and certainly not the $20 ebay price.

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I just hope as a seller that Bruce does half as well for me as he did on this poster for the items I just sent to him. In Bruce I Trust.

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Brek
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But, but, but...

You do realize that $150 is closer to $20 than to $486.

You seem to be suggesting that this bidder paid more than 3 times what this poster was worth.

Evan

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Forget the idea that this was a $20 poster!
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I think this is one of the coolest posters ever. If someone out there has one in nice shape they will sell for $150, I will take it.
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And to prove how great I think it is, I will pay $300 for three of them, if they are out there!
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Bruce


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM, John Waldman < [email protected] > wrote:





I had this poster on my emovieposter watch list, and I was amazed at how much that poster sold for. There was a couple of bidders that really wanted that poster. I guess you just have to have the right audience in attendance at your auction.
John W




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Or, on the flip side.--


someone spent 486.00 for a 20 dollar poster...Â


this buyer will be crying the blues, if he learns that, a month earlier, he could have gotten the same item, in the same condition, for 2 ten dollar bills.


OUCH!


it all depends on how one looks at the scenario.






Jeff















On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:



I feel I am putting forth incredible advertising for eBay!
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After all, someone got a $486 poster for $20 last week, so that guy is super happy and LOVES eBay.
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I can see their new ads: "Come to eBay where we will hide the items so thoroughly that you can find items for a fraction of their regular price"!
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Bruce


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:12 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia < [email protected] > wrote:




The consignor obviously made a very good decision in sending that poster to you. I have been selling quite a lot through eBay lately but you have to be prepared to take the risk of getting low prices for decent posters in their auctions. The fact that you and others have taken so many buyers away from eBay is an indication of the impact of the negative policies that they introduced.

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It's had another significant bump in the bid price:
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1499931
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Must be that damed time-extended bidding causing the jump in price!
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Bruce


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Bruce Hershenson < [email protected] > wrote:



Of course I sometimes get far more than eBay sellers (as in the case cited above), both because I reach more interested collectors, and because of the "trust" factor. I believe it is fair to say I get a substantially higher amount overall for 100 posters than an eBay seller would for the very same posters.
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Absolutely, any buyer with the time to search eBay regularly should do so, especially if they can handle the possible frustration of poorly packed or over-graded posters.
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Then again, I don't always sell for more. I sometimes have some real bargains!
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Bruce





On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:32 AM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia < [email protected] > wrote:




I thought the same thing.
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Bruce, you are actually making a good argument for buyers to do a search on eBay before buying elsewhere.
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It certainly is a Catch 22.
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Not sure how you can promote the advantages for sellers of emovieposter over "ebayjima" without it highlighting the opposite for buyers. Hmmm, appears to be an advertising Catch 22.


Rich




On 13 Aug 2009, at 01:22, Bruce Hershenson wrote:



  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350227396540  (closed)
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Sometimes WHERE you auction (and how many interested buyers you reach) can mean as much as WHAT you are auctioning.
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eBay brags of its millions of bidders, and other auctions brag of their hundreds of thousands of bidders, but what difference does that make when the vast majority of those people will never ever buy a vintage poster?
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I will stack up OUR 31,000+ actual buyers (each of which is someone who actually purchased vintage movie paper from us) against the bidders from any other auction in the world!
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