According to the Heritage description, ONLY this amount of the entire
half sheet was original:
The original portion of the poster includes the image of the monster,
the "FR" in Frankenstein and the portrait of Dwight Frye. The rest of
the poster has been painted in.
that being said.. what percentage of this ENTIRE poster was original?
20%
If approx. 80% is a re-created, then wouldnt this piece fall under
the "Re-creation" banner?
Jeff
On Aug 30, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:
clearly there is a point at which it is just a recreation
this piece straddles the line
if it had been cut in 2, that would put in on the sad side of the line
At 02:12 PM 8/30/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
If the surviving Ramone had cut the Frankenstein fragment into
two, could they have "restored" both pieces into heavily restored
half-sheets? What if they had cut it into three or four or five or
ten? When does restoration become recreation? If the infamous
Universal fakes prove to have 1/100th of an original poster
somewhere in them, are they no longer fakes, but merely "heavily
restored"?
Maybe the only mistake the rip-off artists made was to not include
a bit of an original poster in each poster they sold. If they had
done so, what crime are they guilty of? Over-grading? If that were
a prosecutable defense, the jails would be crammed full.
Bruce
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art
<[email protected]> wrote:
what grade would the 50% recreated Mummy 1sh be called???
if either poster was not restored, that woul dbe poor condition
restored has to move it up a grade on the scale and would be
salable if it was backed or not, if for nothing more than curiosity
of course, we all have different grading systems
Bruce's very good or my very good or Seans or Heritage's are not
at all the same
At 01:51 PM 8/30/2009, bqjansen wrote:
Still you should not call it "fair". These grades imply an
objectivity no matter how rare the object is. Getting back to my
furniture reference. One original leg does not make a Chippendale
in fair condition.
Wim
Op 30 aug 2009, om 22:40 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het
volgende geschreven:
I actually agree with Grey 100% on this issue
whether the poster was restored to the quality of a Studio-C or
Poster Mountain restoration, the description in my opinion is
just fine
they do not create any illusions on the item, grades as fair/
restored and the picture tells the story
the fact that it is one of one makes it a desired item
regardless of less than perfect artistic quality
now, keep in mind, nothing keeps the current owner of the item
from getting it re-restored with the work of a better artist
than the one who previously worked on the poster, which would of
course make it considerably more presentable
Rich
At 01:28 PM 8/30/2009, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
JR
You mention "silk purse from a...", perhaps, but when it is the
only sow's ear on earth, it is assuredly, in many people's
eyes, a silk purse!
Concerning including an image of the title card next to the
half sheet, not a bad idea but where does that end? Should we
end up trying to offer comparisons on all we sell. This is
exactly why we continue to offer the service of high res images
forever on our site and are the only poster seller that does
so. As Heritage has always suggested, educate yourself on
anything you purchase. Thus the reason for the link to
comparables on every page of our auctions. This is also
something that only Heritage offers to their bidders.
From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James Richard
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage
I might be so audacious and impertinent as to suggest that a
responsible and highly-regarded auction house catering to the
very well-to-do and regularly selling tens of millions of
dollars of high-priced collectibles every year would have taken
it upon themselves to include a high resolution picture of the
title card along with the half sheet auction so that the
bidders could have made the comparison themselves at the time
of the sale.
But I guess I'm just being naive... despite the cries of shock
and horror over the last few days, "let the buyer beware" is
still the Golden Rule in our society.
-- JR
Douglas Ball wrote:
Side by side, yes, but when the auction took place it looked
damn good!
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FRANKENSTEIN 1/2 sheet vs TC from Heritage
There is indeed a very big difference between the two.
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