hello Tom,

first.. i had great difficulty deciphering your llast response.. but to
coninue.

you repeated your same points without addressing my points.. as i said..
MANY in here complain when a POSTER is listed in the wrong decade... a
poster. .. so why are there no outcries when people like this seller choose
to place a book or catalog in a poster category.. movie or other ad
poster-typing aside.

transparency, bait and switch and all else you referred to have nothing to
do with my simple observation and question.

again, i only echoed thise sentiment about the listing because so many
poster collectors have complained here about the other issues i mentioned.
so it would seem to follow, that i am just asking a general question, in the
same vein.

once i got to your paragraph about your company, i could no longer follow
along with clarity. too many partial words, phrases, misspelled words etc,
so i'm sorry -- i got the basic jist only.

that was simply my 2 ยข worth on the listing subject and was just curious..

best.

Kerry





On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Tom Martin <
[email protected]> wrote:

>   Hi Kerry -I believe the catagorys are merely to offer sections for easy
> access of said materials and to offer
> a matrix for the items or a template.. However NOT a iron clad  only
> section for the item...
>
> Because many times a item like MOVie poster catalogs may be deemed  a
> supplemental item
> to that catagory.. just as Movie poster frames woul be.. or any material
> that could accent tha collection
> in anyway.
>
> Im sure there are many areas that may both some buyers on ebay , just lke
> the reproductions offend some collectors that want only originals.
>
> Again Il site the vast marketing world where as we know. deception and bait
> and swtich techniques are rampant.
>
> Personally I feel transparency and honest business practice is best..
> However Ill offer you my company as example.. I sell movie related Items...
> and I sell to pro Motion picture shops and also Theme parks , Univesitys,
> and many differant shops that wish to use my items to make movies or give
> as gists to film fans, or to decorate
> Home theatres.. etc....
> So when I have a Book on say Movie picture projection.. I might list as a
> Collectable book and in the
> Projector catagory.. as the audiance in that catagory may also be
> interested in a eclective book like that.
>  Thats why peole do it.. and i might add when I list inseveral catagorys
> its like a test.. It gets additional exposre for a Item
> I make movie camera Props.... it can be a Prop , a home decor item as many
> people decorate with Movie.. It can appeal to die hard Movie buffs,
> filmmakers and also as a original sculpture its art and can appeal to people
> that Like sculpts.... so Its really a cross indexed peice...
> Think of a search engie  or Phone book... many people advertise or draw
> from differant  genres in differant catagorys because of a Mutal interest
> connection..
>
>
> Makes perfect sense to me and cross promotions are beautiful and produce
> great results...
>
> As far as your wanting a catagory to be devoid of any things that are not
> idental items, I personally enjoy when
> a product mix is suggested... like if You Like Movie posters YOU will love
> our Movie poster sleev collecttion..
> it just makes the hobby more colorfull and not so bland..
>
> Howevere that said, Perhaps you should make the suggestion to Ebay as Im
> sure they take polls from Buyere and need input.. maybe im in the minority
> and most want it to be limited to posters only..
>
> I like when I see Bruces poster books on sale as he did a great job and
> also Sue heim offers a great service to collectors.., as learn about posters
> does.. its all a community that needs all the support and info made
> mainstream so that others can learn and enjoy the Hobby..
> Your concern about glut of materials is well taken as Im sure it gets
> frustating to have to see it however
> I can scroll pretty quick and the ads stick out pretty easy for me.
>
> well thats my 2 cents hope you can  find a way to  enjoy the experiance
>  better.
> Kindest regards, Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> Kerry Laws wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> while i appreciate your comparisons.. they miss the mark.
>
> i see on this list all the time people complaining and whining about ebay,
> with fee hikes, new rules or parameters, miscategorized items etc.
>
> Very simply, if one looks in the Entertainment Memorabilia section, there
> are sub categories for books, stills, pressbooks, advertising materials,
> etc.
>
> Unlike your baseball game analogy, on ebay there are SPECIFIC categories. I
> have also seen others on this list complain about having to wade thru repros
> in the original category or a bunch of posters from the 1980s lumped in the
> section from the 1940s.
>
> i was simply making another observation that, like those issues, having old
> auction catalogs or books from bruce (or whoever), in the Original Poster
> section is not correct, for the reasons that people have mentioned-- when a
> poster is listed in a wrong decade, for example... those are at least
> POSTERS... and there are legitimate complaints when they are mis-categorized
> in this way.
>
> And these books are NOT listed in the poster section as a secondary
> category.. they are here ONLY-- ( Ent. Memorabilia-->Posters-->Originals
> US-->Pre 1940s.
>
> Lastly, your comparison with product placement in movies is also not valid
> with this line of thought.
>
>
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tom Martin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Kerry If you think about it.. its basic marketing..... why do they sell
>> hot dogs at a football game...?
>>
>> why do they sell popcorn in a Movie theater?   why sell basketballs in a
>> Food isle near cereal???
>>
>> The fact is that many accouterments  can be offered in a category that is
>> not specific  however Overlaps or may offer a item to a like minded group.
>>
>> For instance a Poster frame for a One sheet in all years might titillate
>> and offer a impulse buy for a poster collector..
>>
>> also a Table with a Movie theme may also appeal to the poster buyer as
>> they may have a Home theater or movie ROOM.
>>
>>
>> The catagorys are template to organize and  cull specific Items However to
>> list a item in a secondary category
>>
>> allows exposure to new groups and is like test marketing. There rare many
>> categories that related items may find a new market in.
>>
>>
>> Major retailers always experiment in deferent demographics of age, race
>> and culture when selling items so its very common in all sale... especially
>> Grocery stores and big block stores like walmarts,
>>
>>
>> study the flow of goods and you will see all kinds of items clustered
>> together that seem odd mixes..
>>
>> when you go in Ice cream isle they will also have nuts , ic cream scoops
>> and other toppings near the section as they hope to stimulate additional
>> sales..
>>
>> Its smart marketing and  even the movies do Product placement where many
>> items you see in Movies like the cars, the food, products where put in et
>> script and paid for by the vendors for a fee..
>> then the local McDonnell's sell premiums of the Movie as a additional
>> source of revenue..  licensed and creates more  cash flow.
>>
>> Hope that helps... the poster catalogs seem to me pertinent to Movie
>> posters and I would think many poster collects would love to find them...
>> and what better place to offer then in the Poster category?
>>
>>
>>
>> best, Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kerry Laws wrote:
>>
>>  I wanted to ask, with all the issues with ebay and people advertising in
>> wrong categories, wong decade, new, old, repro rather than original, etc.
>> ..why does one seller always advertise old poster catalogs (which are books
>> and NOT posters) in the Original Poster category? These ads are poster
>> related but are NOT posters. there is a section for this kind of material, i
>> am sure:
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/FULL-SERIES-HERSHENSON-BOOK-COLLECTION-9-BOOKS_W0QQitemZ200432853189QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2eaabaa0c5
>>
>> just my observation about having to wade thru items that are not posters.
>> (same goes for those that put 8x10 stills in the poster section, when there
>> is a specific "movie stills" section).
>>
>>
>>
>> Kerry
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