OK Kerry- so why is a BOOK in a catagory not as offensive as a Poster
that is from a differant decade?
Lucky for you I dont have a Life so I appear the only one that will
answer this..... and also Im illiterate and dont take time to spell
check and review my emails as This is sucj a trivial question that I
cannot belive im answering it 3 times or addressing it... But heck...
its this Or watch TV...:)
answer to your question: I dont have a clue.... perhaps Bruce has
decided to sell all his books in every catagory
in a conspiracy to irratate you and others that need everything to be
in order..?
Then he send me in as a henchman to really rile you up with mis-spleed
words and grammar...
Next Rudy will come in and make a wise statement like " zippidy doo
dah" and then disappear.
For the proper spelling and grammar of my emails I suggest run a spell
check and call Kreskin.
He has the abridged email in his possesion....
Kerry I suggest you consult poster organization consultant for your
answers..
I remain.,
Tom
OCD test center coordinator
Kerry Laws wrote:
hello Tom,
first.. i had great difficulty deciphering your llast response.. but
to coninue.
you repeated your same points without addressing my points.. as i
said.. MANY in here complain when a POSTER is listed in the wrong
decade... a poster. .. so why are there no outcries when people like
this seller choose to place a book or catalog in a poster category..
movie or other ad poster-typing aside.
transparency, bait and switch and all else you referred to have
nothing to do with my simple observation and question.
again, i only echoed thise sentiment about the listing because so many
poster collectors have complained here about the other issues i
mentioned. so it would seem to follow, that i am just asking a general
question, in the same vein.
once i got to your paragraph about your company, i could no longer
follow along with clarity. too many partial words, phrases, misspelled
words etc, so i'm sorry -- i got the basic jist only.
that was simply my 2 ยข worth on the listing subject and was just curious..
best.
Kerry
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Tom Martin
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Kerry -I believe the catagorys are merely to offer sections
for easy access of said materials and to offer
a matrix for the items or a template.. However NOT a iron clad
only section for the item...
Because many times a item like MOVie poster catalogs may be deemed
a supplemental item
to that catagory.. just as Movie poster frames woul be.. or any
material that could accent tha collection
in anyway.
Im sure there are many areas that may both some buyers on ebay ,
just lke the reproductions offend some collectors that want only
originals.
Again Il site the vast marketing world where as we know. deception
and bait and swtich techniques are rampant.
Personally I feel transparency and honest business practice is
best.. However Ill offer you my company as example.. I sell movie
related Items... and I sell to pro Motion picture shops and also
Theme parks , Univesitys,
and many differant shops that wish to use my items to make movies
or give as gists to film fans, or to decorate
Home theatres.. etc....
So when I have a Book on say Movie picture projection.. I might
list as a Collectable book and in the
Projector catagory.. as the audiance in that catagory may also be
interested in a eclective book like that.
Thats why peole do it.. and i might add when I list inseveral
catagorys its like a test.. It gets additional exposre for a Item
I make movie camera Props.... it can be a Prop , a home decor item
as many people decorate with Movie.. It can appeal to die hard
Movie buffs, filmmakers and also as a original sculpture its art
and can appeal to people
that Like sculpts.... so Its really a cross indexed peice...
Think of a search engie or Phone book... many people advertise or
draw from differant genres in differant catagorys because of a
Mutal interest connection..
Makes perfect sense to me and cross promotions are beautiful and
produce great results...
As far as your wanting a catagory to be devoid of any things that
are not idental items, I personally enjoy when
a product mix is suggested... like if You Like Movie posters YOU
will love our Movie poster sleev collecttion..
it just makes the hobby more colorfull and not so bland..
Howevere that said, Perhaps you should make the suggestion to Ebay
as Im sure they take polls from Buyere and need input.. maybe im
in the minority and most want it to be limited to posters only..
I like when I see Bruces poster books on sale as he did a great
job and also Sue heim offers a great service to collectors.., as
learn about posters does.. its all a community that needs all the
support and info made mainstream so that others can learn and
enjoy the Hobby..
Your concern about glut of materials is well taken as Im sure it
gets frustating to have to see it however
I can scroll pretty quick and the ads stick out pretty easy for me.
well thats my 2 cents hope you can find a way to enjoy the
experiance better.
Kindest regards, Tom
Kerry Laws wrote:
Tom,
while i appreciate your comparisons.. they miss the mark.
i see on this list all the time people complaining and whining
about ebay, with fee hikes, new rules or parameters,
miscategorized items etc.
Very simply, if one looks in the Entertainment Memorabilia
section, there are sub categories for books, stills, pressbooks,
advertising materials, etc.
Unlike your baseball game analogy, on ebay there are SPECIFIC
categories. I have also seen others on this list complain about
having to wade thru repros in the original category or a bunch of
posters from the 1980s lumped in the section from the 1940s.
i was simply making another observation that, like those issues,
having old auction catalogs or books from bruce (or whoever), in
the Original Poster section is not correct, for the reasons that
people have mentioned-- when a poster is listed in a wrong
decade, for example... those are at least POSTERS... and there
are legitimate complaints when they are mis-categorized in this way.
And these books are NOT listed in the poster section as a
secondary category.. they are here ONLY-- ( Ent.
Memorabilia-->Posters-->Originals US-->Pre 1940s.
Lastly, your comparison with product placement in movies is also
not valid with this line of thought.
Kerry
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tom Martin
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Kerry If you think about it.. its basic marketing..... why do
they sell hot dogs at a football game...?
why do they sell popcorn in a Movie theater? why sell
basketballs in a Food isle near cereal???
The fact is that many accouterments can be offered in a
category that is not specific however Overlaps or may offer
a item to a like minded group.
For instance a Poster frame for a One sheet in all years
might titillate and offer a impulse buy for a poster collector..
also a Table with a Movie theme may also appeal to the poster
buyer as they may have a Home theater or movie ROOM.
The catagorys are template to organize and cull specific
Items However to list a item in a secondary category
allows exposure to new groups and is like test marketing.
There rare many categories that related items may find a new
market in.
Major retailers always experiment in deferent demographics of
age, race and culture when selling items so its very common
in all sale... especially Grocery stores and big block stores
like walmarts,
study the flow of goods and you will see all kinds of items
clustered together that seem odd mixes..
when you go in Ice cream isle they will also have nuts , ic
cream scoops and other toppings near the section as they hope
to stimulate additional sales..
Its smart marketing and even the movies do Product placement
where many items you see in Movies like the cars, the food,
products where put in et script and paid for by the vendors
for a fee..
then the local McDonnell's sell premiums of the Movie as a
additional source of revenue.. licensed and creates more
cash flow.
Hope that helps... the poster catalogs seem to me pertinent
to Movie posters and I would think many poster collects would
love to find them... and what better place to offer then in
the Poster category?
best, Tom
Kerry Laws wrote:
I wanted to ask, with all the issues with ebay and people
advertising in wrong categories, wong decade, new, old,
repro rather than original, etc. ..why does one seller
always advertise old poster catalogs (which are books and
NOT posters) in the Original Poster category? These ads are
poster related but are NOT posters. there is a section for
this kind of material, i am sure:
http://cgi.ebay.com/FULL-SERIES-HERSHENSON-BOOK-COLLECTION-9-BOOKS_W0QQitemZ200432853189QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2eaabaa0c5
just my observation about having to wade thru items that are
not posters. (same goes for those that put 8x10 stills in
the poster section, when there is a specific "movie stills"
section).
Kerry
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