Dario,

I wouldn't call it  High School Drama.  It's easy to minimize these situations, 
especially when they become uncomfortable. However, there is a point.  I 
clearly started APF with Thierry when Andy started banning my friends for 
reasons that were contrary to my feelings and beliefs (right or wrong as they 
may be).  There is, thus, nothing to question about the timing.  That was 
exactly the case.

Also, I am not trying to do some altruistic act with APF.  If people 
participate, that's great.  If they don't, that's fine too.  I started it with 
Thierry because it satisfied me to do so.  It's that simple.

What angers me, Dario, is duplicity.  I am angered by folks that don't have the 
courage of their convictions.  I have never claimed to be anything other than 
what I am, nor have I claimed to be doing anything other than what I am doing.

My core dispute with Andy is that he took baseless, adverse action against my 
friends.  He drew a line.  I chose a side.  It's that simple.

Once again, I NEVER would have aired this crap were it not for Andy taking a 
private email message and posting it to a public board.  The first mistake was 
in the recipient of that message posting it to MPF.  Andy then compounded that 
mistake by re-posting it to Mopo. Rather than let it go, he stirred the shit.  
And now he whines.

Let me be clear. I do not like Andy.  I am not required to like Andy.  Anyone 
who thinks I'm angry is absolutely correct.  Anyone who does not like me is 
welcome to that opinion.  If you don't want to visit my forum, that's fine.  If 
you do, that's fine too.  I have no need for anyone to do so, let alone to 
generate nickels and dime to supplement my day job.

But please, if we're going to keep talking about this, could we please keep in 
mind that Andy is no more a victim here than I am or Thierry is.  He is as much 
a participant as we are.

Holiday Russell

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Dario Casadei <[email protected]>
> Date: February 21, 2010 7:01:05 PM EST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] True colors from phony collectors!
> Reply-To: Dario Casadei <[email protected]>
> 
> High School drama right across the boards!
> 
> One can question Andy's sincerity weather it is about the Business or the 
> hobby? ( Personally I don't care ) Andy can run his forum as pleases him.
> 
> One can question APF weather it is really about "the collector or a personal 
> vendetta against Andy?
> 
> The timing of APF and the anger I hear from Holiday and Thierry, might 
> suggest so with some viewers. 
> 
> 
> Carefree, Sunny and warm in Vancouver, GO CANADA GO))))
> 
> dario.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Andy Neal wrote:
>> 
>> Nonsense I have done nothing disgraceful - Your out of order...Period!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:17:05 -0800
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [MOPO] True colors from phony collectors!
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > 
>> > You want to talk about disgraceful behavior, Andy. How about you 
>> > banning people left and right simply because they disagree with you, 
>> > or banning Joneyy because he disagreed with your banners placement. 
>> > How many people have you banned so far, Andy? 50? 100?
>> > 
>> > The reason we left MPF is that it had become about MONEY, YOUR MONEY 
>> > and how much PROFIT you could make from YOUR FORUM, squeezing it left 
>> > and right from every member and anyone who dares advertising. Because 
>> > at the end of the day, MPF is NOT a forum about posters, it's a 
>> > VEHICLE to raise MONEY. It's all about ADS, and your recent endeavor 
>> > in trying to raise more MONEY with the creation of an authentication 
>> > site, when you know very well it already exists thru Jeannie, is truly 
>> > despicable.
>> > 
>> > By the same token, coming on MoPo and lying about the amount of 
>> > members MPF has, when you very well know a lot of people have 3, 4, 
>> > sometimes more memberships, is as despicable as my email. And I'm not 
>> > even talking about spammers. And since you control it all in your 
>> > little dark room, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually created 
>> > members to inflate the tally. 80% of MPF members post only once. Why 
>> > is that, Andy?
>> > 
>> > So although I completely agree that my tone on this email was 
>> > borderline aggressive and totally uncalled for (I was probably having 
>> > a bad day, which can happen to anyone,) and for that I apologize), you 
>> > are no one to give behavior lessons. Besides, it was a private email 
>> > that wasn't meant to be disclosed, and now here you are, publishing it 
>> > to the world.
>> > 
>> > Another DESPERATE ATTEMPT to RAISE MONEY, Andy? How much do you need, 
>> > I'll write you a check ASAP.
>> > 
>> > Thierry
>> > 
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