Brando's paper almost always sucks until you get to some of his
sh*tty movies which seem to have better paper (but who cares for those titles)
among the worst poster designs ever are the posters for the Men
to the stars mentioned.. Most people today would rather have a
Jessica Alba poster than Clark Gable
At 11:58 AM 1/5/2011, Zeev Drach wrote:
Dave,
You are so right about the "softness" of most of Brando's paper,
sadly however, this is true for most of the big names of the 40's
and 50's. Who the heck collects Gregory Peck as an actor(as opposed
to a couple of titles in which he's in) these day? Or Spencer
Tracy, or Anthony Quinn, Paul Newman, Kirk Douglas, or even Clark
Gable? And the list goes on and on. They're all giants, we'd all
agree, but the number collectors who care about them is dwindling fast.
Marlon Brando, I think, could've been(and one day might still be) an
exception, because he was an icon while still alive. The added
problem with Brando paper, and now I'm getting back to the original
topic, is that the design of the posters, even and especially for
his key titles, is so poor and uninspiring. You can go over them
one by one, Streetcar Named Desire, The Wild One, On the Waterfront,
and others, and you won't find even ONE(!) decent design.
Sorry for going on like this, but that's obviously a touchy subject
with me.. ;-)
Zeev
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one?
I agree. Rarity aside, it's all about taste, personal interest and,
ultimately, how many collectors want it and how far they are willing
to go to get it.
Yes, this poster is goofy-looking. Yes, the market for Brando
material outside of Waterfront and Streetcar is a little soft.
However, that aside, I have a number of motorcycle enthusiasts among
my clients, as I'm sure do many other dealers. They like their bikes
and they like anything to do with bikes, including anything to do
with biker movies. This was the first biker movie but it was
released with very little paper that actually shows motorcycles!
That reason alone would probably be enough to drive a number of
collectors to want this poster...badly. They don't have to be fans
of Brando or even good poster art.
As to whether it would reach the appraisal estimate, only an auction
could determine that.
Dave
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From: <mailto:[email protected]>Richard Evans
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one?
Think that goofiness will be a plus for some, got a lot of kitsch appeal.
Though the irony may wear thin.
On 5 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
Hi, Zeev et al
I'm not a collector at all; I'm a seller. I collect other things
like recordings and cookbooks.
Who knew?
The recovery of any unknown poster is interesting, particularly for
a title like THE WILD ONE.
Your DRAGSTRIP RIOT comment is very perceptive -- obviously this
poster was copied from that
very wonderful image. In RIOT, however, the overall design of the
poster, its context and and the kinetics of the moment depicted make
the wrench-brandishing exciting and menacing, whereas in the
Brando poster it's merely goofy.
Please know that I'm not disparaging Rudy's evaluation of the
poster. He could be quite correct.
With something that has not been seen, especially for an iconic
figure like Brando, one could
expect some kind of brisk performance at auction.
One might sell for $3500.
But how would five or six sell?
Would the price hold up as has been demonstrable for, say, DRAGSTRIP RIOT?
Kirby
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On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Zeev Drach wrote:
Kirby, I'm guessing you're not a Brando collector, otherwise I can't
see how you could dismiss this find so easily.
You are right, the realistic accuracy of the design would not matter
to Brando fans and collectors (and I am one of them) in this case. I
mean, the discovery of a Brando poster, for one of his key roles,
that features art that (almost?) no one has ever seen before is a
major find, in my opinion. I think all collectors with even a
passing interest in Brando would be floored by this poster.
As to the question "who rides a motorcycle like that?" I refer you
to Dragstrip Riot(1958)
<http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_poster/dragstrip_riot_1958.htm>http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_poster/dragstrip_riot_1958.htm
from where the image was most certainly lifted.
I'm not familiar with the design of the Hot Blood insert. Is it
different from the standard Wild One insert?
Zeev
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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one?
Thanks for posting this. I did not see my esteemed colleague Mr.
Franchi on ANTIQUES ROADSHOW with this undeniably rare reissue
40x60, so I am interested to read this post.
Rare it may be, and perhaps some Brando completist would pay the
estimate, but if the design of this poster were to count at all, the
film would be entitled THE WEIRD ONE.
Who rides a motorcycle like that? Waving a wrench
about! Ludicrous! And where is the locale? Is this in the
film? They look like they're riding thru the set of CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN.
Ugly! Give me one of the nice lobbies and I'll call that the
prettiest poster on the film. Or the HOT BLOOD insert.
My two centavos.
Kirby McDaniel
<http://www.movieart.net>www.movieart.net
On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Dave Rosen wrote:
Just watched this online. It's Rudy's appraisal of a Wild One 40x60
from last night's Antiques Roadshow. Never saw one of these before.
Might be the best US paper for the movie.
<http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201003A12.html>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201003A12.html
Dave
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