Yep, was thinking about The Deep, first version of the book Dead Calm.
Think there's some kind of incomplete cut out there.


On 18 Feb 2012, at 21:25, Neil Jaworski wrote:

> Dear All
> Before this thread expires completely, I just realised that an honorable 
> mention must go to Orson Welles the patron saint of lost, abandoned and 
> unreleased films (cf. "The Deep", "Don Quixote", "The Merchant Of Venice" etc 
> etc) . There is hope that "The Other Side Of The Wind" may finally be 
> released soon, but the film I would be most delighted for them to find is 
> "Moby Dick - Rehearsed" a recording of Welles stage-adaptation.  Welles 
> filmed 75 mins of material back in 1955 with a cast that included Welles, 
> Patrick MacGoohan, Gordon Jackson, Joan Plowright and Christopher Lee.
> 
> Not a "lost film" in the strictest sense, but something I really hope might 
> stil be found in a basement someday...
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick%E2%80%94Rehearsed 
> 
> Neil
> 
> From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 18:09
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] What is the most recent "lost" film?
> 
> It could not be worse? - or could it - than LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL, a film that 
> managed to somehow trivialize the holocaust while still winning
> three Oscars.  Not, as you can tell, one of my favorite OscarMoments.
> 
> Kirby
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Neil Jaworski wrote:
> 
>> The most recent, mainstream "lost" film might be Jerry Lewis' tragi-comedy 
>> "The Day The Clown Cried" (1972) where Jerry plays a clown in a 
>> concentration camp who's job it is to lead kids into the gas chambers.
>> 
>> Only a handful of people have ever seen the film including Harry Shearer who 
>> said "The closest I can come to describing the effect is if you flew down to 
>> Tijuana and suddenly saw a painting on black velvet of Auschwitz. You'd just 
>> think, 'My God, wait a minute!  It's not funny, and it's not good, and 
>> somebody's trying too hard in the wrong direction to convey this strongly 
>> held feeling."
>> 
>> It's rumoured that the sole copy is in Jerry's vault, but I suppose its 
>> unlikely it will ever see the light of day.  As well as issues of taste 
>> there are apparently a myriad of legal complications surrounding it.  
>> Possibly for the best!
>> 
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> From: Helmut Hamm <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 15:48
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] What is the most recent "lost" film?
>> 
>> I just checked the IMDb for the the films of Earl Owensby, and while I'm 
>> pretty sure that most of his films eventually saw a video release, THE BRASS 
>> RING from 1975 has no votes at all, so chances are, that this one is indeed 
>> lost.
>> 
>> For those who are not familiar with the name, Earl Owensby's E.O. 
>> Productions made a number of action flics in the 70s and 80s, mostly 
>> catering to the drive-ins in the South. Unfortunately, Earl's North Carolina 
>> studios have been severely hit by a tornado a few years back, and he lost 
>> most of his films prints on that day.
>> 
>> On some of his films, these may have well been the last surviving 16 mm 
>> copies... 
>> 
>> Personally, I really enjoyed SEABO (aka BUCKSTONE COUNTY PRISON), which to 
>> this day is only available as a poor DVD-R transfered from a video tape. 
>> A 'regular' DVD had been announced on the web, but it never came out, due to 
>> the lack of a film print. 
>> So, technically, SEABO is not a lost film, but the best you can get is vhs 
>> quality...
>> 
>> Helmut
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 14.02.2012 um 15:52 schrieb Bruce Hershenson:
>> 
>>> Very true, Kirby! But that was not my question.
>>> 
>>> Wim, I was not counting made for TV. I think the reason so many of those 
>>> were lost is that they simply re-used the tapes (you could record right 
>>> over the last recording), so it saved lots of money. Kind of like how they 
>>> melted down old films!
>>> 
>>> Bruce
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> There are some that SHOULD be!
>>> K.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We often hear that half of all movies made before 1920 are "lost". But 
>>>> what is the most recent "lost" film? I mean, are there movies of the 1960s 
>>>> or later that are "lost"? Or when did people stop being so stupid as to 
>>>> lose the last surviving example of a movie?
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
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