Re: [MOPO] What is the most recent "lost" film?

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:50:47 -0800

just a note on London After Midnight.  When Films Inc closed in Westchester - there were prints of Tell it to the Marines, He Who Gets Slapped, West of Zanzibar,

and at least 4 other Lon Chaney films - none of which had rented in the 12 years since they were printed.  If London After Midnight was there, and not listed among the missing - it would never have rented either. People want to see it because of the hype - of the lost Chaney's - I'd be more interested in the Octave of Claudius (Blind Bargin) - his one real monster movie!

 

 
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From: Bruce Hershenson
Sent: Feb 18, 2012 9:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] What is the most recent "lost" film?

What about this one from the same page?

1999 Puppet Felix R. Limardo
A 1999 film starring Fred Weller and Rebecca Gayheart. Comedian Artie Lange who also appeared in the film, states in his book that he has never seen the film because it has never surfaced.


On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Neil Jaworski <[email protected]> wrote:
"London After Midnight" is a great one.

To go back to Bruce's original post, there's a handy wiki page of "Lost Films" that includes missing films from as recently as 1983;  "Where Is Parsifal" (The Curse Of Orson Welles strikes again!) and in 1987 the original version of "September" that Woody Allen shot and then scrapped.


From: Toochis Morin <[email protected]>
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Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012, 21:43

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I would love to see LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT!

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On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Neil Jaworski <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear All
Before this thread expires completely, I just realised that an honorable mention must go to Orson Welles the patron saint of lost, abandoned and unreleased films (cf. "The Deep", "Don Quixote", "The Merchant Of Venice" etc etc) . There is hope that "The Other Side Of The Wind" may finally be released soon, but the film I would be most delighted for them to find is "Moby Dick - Rehearsed" a recording of Welles stage-adaptation.  Welles filmed 75 mins of material back in 1955 with a cast that included Welles, Patrick MacGoohan, Gordon Jackson, Joan Plowright and Christopher Lee.

Not a "lost film" in the strictest sense, but something I really hope might stil be found in a basement someday...


Neil

From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 18:09
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It could not be worse? - or could it - than LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL, a film that managed to somehow trivialize the holocaust while still winning
three Oscars.  Not, as you can tell, one of my favorite OscarMoments.

Kirby


On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Neil Jaworski wrote:

The most recent, mainstream "lost" film might be Jerry Lewis' tragi-comedy "The Day The Clown Cried" (1972) where Jerry plays a clown in a concentration camp who's job it is to lead kids into the gas chambers.

Only a handful of people have ever seen the film including Harry Shearer who said "The closest I can come to describing the effect is if you flew down to Tijuana and suddenly saw a painting on black velvet of Auschwitz. You'd just think, 'My God, wait a minute!  It's not funny, and it's not good, and somebody's trying too hard in the wrong direction to convey this strongly held feeling."

It's rumoured that the sole copy is in Jerry's vault, but I suppose its unlikely it will ever see the light of day.  As well as issues of taste there are apparently a myriad of legal complications surrounding it.  Possibly for the best!

Neil

From: Helmut Hamm <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 15:48
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I just checked the IMDb for the the films of Earl Owensby, and while I'm pretty sure that most of his films eventually saw a video release, THE BRASS RING from 1975 has no votes at all, so chances are, that this one is indeed lost.

For those who are not familiar with the name, Earl Owensby's E.O. Productions made a number of action flics in the 70s and 80s, mostly catering to the drive-ins in the South. Unfortunately, Earl's North Carolina studios have been severely hit by a tornado a few years back, and he lost most of his films prints on that day.

On some of his films, these may have well been the last surviving 16 mm copies... 

Personally, I really enjoyed SEABO (aka BUCKSTONE COUNTY PRISON), which to this day is only available as a poor DVD-R transfered from a video tape. 
A 'regular' DVD had been announced on the web, but it never came out, due to the lack of a film print. 
So, technically, SEABO is not a lost film, but the best you can get is vhs quality...

Helmut



Am 14.02.2012 um 15:52 schrieb Bruce Hershenson:

Very true, Kirby! But that was not my question.

Wim, I was not counting made for TV. I think the reason so many of those were lost is that they simply re-used the tapes (you could record right over the last recording), so it saved lots of money. Kind of like how they melted down old films!

Bruce

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
There are some that SHOULD be!
K.

On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

We often hear that half of all movies made before 1920 are "lost". But what is the most recent "lost" film? I mean, are there movies of the 1960s or later that are "lost"? Or when did people stop being so stupid as to lose the last surviving example of a movie?

Bruce
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