Howdy Bruce et al, The 'piling on' was in reply to Rick Ryan (erroneously) speaking for all of us in his message, and I did not specifically reference anyone else.
If memory serves, I believe that I initially replied that Mrs. Kudaka had a right to state her opinion, then Craig replied, and then ... When "Koos' starts typing, I generally stop. I was not aware of the page view situation, so I cannot relate (for now) how competing page views translates into net profit for similar product lines from diff companies. As for the Heritage business model you are referencing, it is not for me to judge. I can state that if I owned a similar business, I would not do business in that manner. BTW ... It was my opinion that you don't need this situation; if you feel that you do, I am not one to argue. You can just as easily tell me that "I don't know what I'm talking about" ... it won't bother me at all; it happens often at my job. As I mentioned earlier, call me old school country ... ad ________________________________ From: Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> To: allen day <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services Allen Now I'm VERY confused! Is the "piling on" that bothers you the criticism of Heritage? These threads actually started out with a bunch of die-hard Heritage supporters "piling on" against Geraldine, and only David Kusumoto stood up for her! But be that as it may, let me address your comment to me about me not "needing this situation". For quite some time, Heritage has (or had) a page on their site showing how many more page views a day their entire site gets than mine (and they name my site). They believe this is a strength they have over my business, and they are trying to exploit it (I will leave out a discussion of the merits of comparing ALL their visitors from a huge spectrum of collectibles to mine). But when I REPLY to a discussion about a strength in my business over theirs (I do not initiate it as they do in the example above), you say I don't "need this situation"! Why exactly is this so? If there is something factually incorrect in what I have posted (here or anywhere) please let me know and I will retract it and apologize. Here's an example of what I consider a VERY valid observation of a major difference between our two businesses: Isn't is a HUGE conflict of interest when a major auction house own major shares in grading companies, and that they buy graded items from their own auctions and also directly from people who contact them, and then have them re-graded higher by companies they partially own, and then re-auction them to people who bid with a snipe program the major auction house itself owns (and at least some of those bidding have no idea the sniping company is owned by the very company they are bidding with)? Now if you see no conflict in this, fine. But I don't see what is wrong with my raising this factual query, just as I see nothing wrong with them showing that their entire site has more visitors than my site. Bruce On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM, allen day <[email protected]> wrote: Howdy y'all, > > >I am not going to pretend to speak for Mrs Kudaka; she is a member of MOPO; >she has every right to post as she sees fit, just as her detractors have every >right to label it as horse hooey. > > >What I perceive as 'getting old' (besides myself), is the 'piling on' > > >However, there is a great balancer in all this ... delete key. > > >BTW ... please use the delete key on this message ASAP > > >ad > > > >________________________________ > >From: Rix Posterz <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 10:20 PM > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services > > > >Geraldine, > >Personally, I send all of my high-end pieces to Bruce H., but, man. all this constant negative B.S. about Heritage Auctions is in my estimation truly getting old. Even if Grey Smith was the Devil incarnate, I'd be growing weary of your constant diatribes I have no doubt that most members of Mopo feel the same way. but are too polite to say what they think it to you. If I'm wrong, Mopo. please lie me on a bed of nails and let Rich find great pleasure in urinating on me! > For all of us, Geraldine, please silence yourself about all this worn-out bullshit, > Sincerely, > Rick Ryan > rixposterz > > >In a message dated 6/8/2012 6:49:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: >Seems to me the director of a professional auction company would not say, >"Don't worry, we have your posters tagged and inventoried" unless they did >have them tagged. >> >>Seems to me, a professional auction company doing what is close to a billion dollars worth of annual sales would have a very good double-ledger type of accounting software tied to a database which could help staff evaluate poster's worth and track it's movement through their system. That same software would not allow an employee to simply remove it's existence from their inventory. >> >>Seems to me if a professional auction company has high end Signature auctions and weekly low-end auctions, posters going in the low-end auction would be in the same database. >> >>Seems to me, if a company like Bruce's which does a high volume of annual sales is capable of keeping track of their customer's inventory, a company like Heritage, which specialized in high end Signature auctions, should be able to keep track of inventory.... >> >>The question is, does a high end company like Heritage depend on their customer's inventory to evaluate a poster's worth or a shipment? Doubt it. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: John Waldman <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 10:55 AM >>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services >> >> >>Seems to me a professional auction company would tell the customer to do a >>inventory. Not everyone knows what to do when they are selling something >>at auction. It's not an everyday occurrence after all. >>A little customer service goes a long way. >>JW >> >> >>From: Geraldine Kudaka <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:40 PM >>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services >> >> >>These conversations move very rapidly, especially when one gets loopy after >>a lot of hours writing emails. My apologies... >> >>I don't know if you've been following the discussion about our submissions >>to Heritage and our stock -- which we had been told by Grey were tagged and >>inventoried -- "disappearing". We were never paid for them and they weren't >>returned. >> >> >>After Heritage only listed a portion of our posters on their inventory, Rudy >>Franchi told us Heritage didn't want the common posters -- like the Judge >>Dredd double sided transparency posters used in light box marquees we had >>sent in our first consignment batch -- and suggested we consign the higher >>valued posters to Heritage, and common posters like the aforementioned Dredd >>to Bruce. >> >> >>I posted my submission to Bruce on MOPO because there was a lot of talk >>about my responsibility for sending an un-inventoried lot to Heritage. In >>fact, some MOPOers said I was to blame for their "disappearance" at Heritage >>because I hadn't inventoried them or pursued Grey about their status. >> >> >> >>Well, at the same time we sent our 2nd batch of posters to Heritage, we sent >>an equal sized consignment batch to Bruce. Like the Heritage consignment, >>this consignment to Bruce was not inventoried. >> >> >> >>I haven't been posting Bruce illegally appropriated my goods because there >>wasn't a problem with payments or returns. >> >> >>The deal was straight ahead and worked without any effort on my part. >> >> >> >>And if Bruce wears a kilt or has good legs... well, I couldn't say. >> >> >> >> >> >>From: Rix Posterz <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services >> >> >>Wait...maybe I missed something. Does Bruce wear a kilt? Is that what >>you're saying? >> >>In a message dated 6/6/2012 5:44:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>[email protected] writes: >>I did forget to mention you, Bruce... Sorry.. Mistake as you were the >>inspiration for my disgruntled attitude... Your regular payments to our >>Paypal account was what kept Heritage's lack of payments in the forefront of >>my mind. >>> >>> >>> >>>Even though your company has done phenomenallywell -- an inspiration for any >>>ebay seller that yes, there is life after ebay -- Heritage gets more press >>>because of their huge glossy catalog and high dollar items... >>> >>> >>>But you've proven that reliability is more important than big glossies. >>> >>> >>>Reminds me of a producer I knew who accidentally started investing in coin >>>operated laundromats. He loved it. Said all those quarters were the easiest >>>way to rake in the money, and he didn't have to deal with whining actors >>>and residuals. All it took was a part time handyman to keep those machines >>>running. >>>Quarters add up faster than big checks that never clear. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> >>>To: Geraldine Kudaka <[email protected]> >>>Cc: [email protected] >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:45 AM >>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce vs Heritage inventory & auciton services >>> >>> >>>Thanks much! That is the huge advantage of having 26 people working here, >>>compared to just a handful (or just two) at many other places. And of >>>course it is not just your consignment, but all the ones we receive (which >>>can be very daunting, since we receive thousands of items per week, of all >>>sizes, from all countries, and from all years). This past Sunday we even >>>added TOYS to our Sunday lineup! >>> >>>Our job is to make it EASY for collectors to dispose of unwanted items, and to help them get more than they could if they sold them to a dealer. If they need to have notarized lists of what they sent (complete with videos of them placing the items into packages and taking them to the Post Office!) then we no longer serve that function, and our consignors will go elsewhere. >>> >>>Bruce >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Geraldine Kudaka <[email protected]> >>>wrote: >>> >>>One point, which Sean inspired me to put into my email rebuttal -- is >>>actually a very important point which I didn't bring up earlier because it >>>wasn't relevant. >>>> >>>>The same day we shipped out this 2nd batch of 30-40 un-inventoried posters >>>>to Heritage, we also shipped a batch of the same 30-40 batch size to Bruce. >>>> >>>>We packed them at the same time, and took them both to be shipped, insured... of course. >>>> >>>>Bruce immediately responded by email, and we started getting sales reports & payments to our Paypal account. >>>> >>>>In fact, it was Bruce's regular payments that caused us to start questioning why we hadn't heard from Heritage. >>>> >>>>So here's to Bruce, for handling out 30-40 un-inventoried posters in a responsible, professional way. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>>___________________________________________________________________ >>>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>>Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team >>>P.O. 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