dear Mr or Ms NUT..... it is true I write long emails, also I talk
incessant and spell Horrible. and I quit school at age 15 actually I was
EXpelled from school as in art class I drew a picture of Led Zepplin
while the othe Kids drew Flowers,,, I wanted to play music.. when The
kid got in my face and said Hey Martin why are you not like the rest of
us and berated me for my painting as I was in a dream state imagining
Plant and page onstage with Marshall amps blaring,, I picked up a
ketchup squezze bottle of tempura purple paint and squirted him between
the eyes and said that's the point I dont wiish to be like "the rest Of
You."..!! and you, whomever you are should worry about what your
posters are worth instead of my spelling unless you are a teacher and
want to give me private lessons and turn me into evelyn wood speed
writer!! If I had a bottle of tempra paint that would reach the UK... I
would surely let you have it also as nasty rude people that think they
can abuse and insult others and ridicule and bully... need to simply
behave themselves... I may be a rambler but your words are foul and
empty and lack compassion..If your a example of a educated person, then
I am proud to be a illiterate and gladly wish to stay the same.. also I
might point out most of my mentors and people I look up to lacked a
formal education... George Eastman of Kodak quit school at 15, Henry
Ford quit, EDison quit , the list goes on.. also did you know MOses
spoke with a lisp? see.. Mr Nut.. communication as blues musicians
clearly have shown and art, and emotion is not based on spelling or
education.. or proper form.... its dancing around the form that allows
us to feel and express many things like hurt , pain Love joy and fear
and happiness.. IMHO...so without insulting You...I will just say try to
consider the Big picture of Life and people instead of finding flaws in
others..Try to see good in people and help them,,,as you never know the
entire story of why they are like they are,,, God bless and wish you a
good future,, Tom
On 2014-10-03 16:23, THE MOVIE NUT wrote:
Tom, are you related to Leo Tolstoy? He wrote a book that is a
classic of Russian literature and it is very long.
Your responses are even longer, but unlike the magnificent prose,
yours is full of ramblings, dreadful spelling and terrible grammar.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself - especially as your scribbling
seem to suggest that you were a very low achiever at
school............................
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Martin"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] whats the deal ON MOVIE POster history where did
You get your info from
hello mopers when I joined MOPO in i think te 90s It was to network,
learn and share ideas and info and also find another ave to sell
stuff.. over the years I met many friends and its been my personal
coffe shop where I also discus life, kids, peopel and about anything
as this group is in the same field of work as I... howevere I also see
to be a sorat black sheep as I amd not a die hard colector nor do I
just stay in posters alone but all cinema.. even at that Iam like a
small country doctor and have never pursued major auctions, or real
high end iems due to lack of funds partly and partly as I have enjoyed
serving everyone that show interest in movies simple and plain.
so one of our memebers Jeff after I posters the Jaws lobby set sad
dont you know they are wortless because they are laminated?? well ive
been thinking that very thing over last month... when I 1st met the
man and saw his collection and overviewed I went stright for what I
thought would be key items to get back my investment... I kept putting
the lobbys aside as I also thought they were worthless.. as my posts
on mopo will atest I went thru phases partly because I didnt know
myself what was whet and Parly because I had to learn... when I asked
about a 1947 returnof the spider 1sht I found it to be the only one
anyone has ever seen and I sent phhotos of it to ed and sue Poole so
it could be archived,,,I never knew muchon serials but after I looked
it seems like a great serial I would like to see and the poster took
on a special meaning to me as a important artifact...when I saw it the
man said Its theonly one I ever saw....and he seemed like he liked it
very much...I had no idea value.. but thought his could be a wild
card..then was told maybe 200.00 by Rich.... I said even if only one
in the world??? which got me thinking about entire poster prices and
where we learn about values and conditions and all... so as I told
jeff.... and Ill say... its my personal opinion that if a poster has
been laminated of slabbed or linen backed If it is the original
specimin it should be as important as any as its 100% genuine.. and
has been sealed against color fades and any yellowing and
deterioation... also I sasked who ever came up with the rules
anyway??? what specialist where and when??? what year and who where
they??? sure the passed down tradition on news groups and auction
house is all that but where did they get that Idea??? no one knows...
when I asked abt the Spider poster,,, I looked at Bruces site.. In all
my years he has been Honest and open and he has to gues many times
himself as the facts are not there... actually ED poole called me on
thephone to explain that they released Mlatary posters and that the
morgan lith # matched the 41 release date but that it was printed as a
combo poster,, when I mentioned this others skoffed at it... whenI
asked then why hasnt anyone ever had one in auction or for sale--
silence...I thank ED, and Bruce as thay are very transparent but many
collectors remain silent as eveyone would like to bu a poster at a
steal .. I understand I also like deals but also ry to be fair to
sellers and when I thought I may have a rare one I thought wouldnt it
be cool if I could reward him witha bonus if I did super great.... so
far I have got what I expcted and a few things I thought where good
have had minimum results but overall its been fun and its best
teaching me about genres and getting me able to adapt to my lifestyle
andmeeting old and new collector friends... Jef debateing with me made
me consider why did poster peopel get set ideas?? he compared
furniture as a sample..well years ago whenI coleced Guitars we liked
good finishes also but then peoel lke he worn shop wornd look with
gouges and scartches I guess as it looked played so Fennder even
offered RELIC guitars where they intentionally distress them and screw
oup he finish !! go figure!! so I told jeff I feel like Galilaeo....
and I say the worlds not flat,... as I saw posters are no worthless
because they are encapsulated in plastic...these are in a rigid
palstic.. ultra clear and whts cool is the cards are mostly as tehy
where when seled so they are white. what confused me is that some are
blatent reprints on Kodak paper so that threw me off at 1st,, but its
prety easy to get a feel..so when I asked myself why would his
detarct... so far no one has a answer....I thought these card show teh
mage , are the cards from the date and look beautiful... also FORRY
ackerman did this also;;and he was a colectors colector... the
advantage is you can pass around and they wont get damaged Ripped, wet
or torn and the images hold up.. how else could you show a group of
kids that want to see Posters??? most peopel shudeer just looking
atthem by themselves fearing a rip or soil etc... so,,I ask everyone
who are the most knowledgeable peopel in Posters and where did they
learn thier INFO? also what guidlines where set and By who?? and
where? as far as professional dealers and appraisers who has the
ability to state what is what unless they where ther at the time...and
what bonifide proff is there...? printer record, studio records,NSS
records.. thelist goes on and on...I would like to know this as I try
my best to be upfront and accurate but as we know all these posters
where never intended to be sold , given , away or collected anyways as
it says on the NSS slug and so from that aspect its all contraband
,,RIGHT? when did it becaome acceptable to save and colect posters
uses them as insulation and floorboards and the like.. it seems sinece
the teens and 20s.. also If we examine the Movie industry itself,,the
reason why hey ended up In Hollywood was to get away from EDIson trust
henchman that where trying to make everyone adhere to his patents...
so this is quite a elaborate issue of issues..
In summery...:) I sell his stuff to help peopel enjoy memorys of
Movies mostly... the images conjure up memorys of your fave films..and
some look nice on the wall also... thats why I offer repros and ways
so that the poorist of people can still enjoy that experience.. i also
help die hard colectors find that gem they want,,I caution everyone
against hording ,, as whati have learned is Life is very short.... the
other day I had a roof replaced the guy said 25 year warrantty on
thses...I said OK i 58 so that means ill be like almost 90 ....I dont
think they need to honor the warrantty do you?? the colector I bought
thee from wa 77 I think he also discovered life is short and just
wanted to se somone enjoy them and get a good home as he worked so
hard to save them.. as a steward of his collection I have gained a
respect for many of the subjects he collected, the man and also the
movie business and that why I have thought these are not worthless at
all but are really what the whole idea of collecting and saving is
about.. preserving for others,,
even though not reverseable who cares?? why reverse it? these poser
willoulive most of us...and already have survived without anyspecial
treatments many since the teens and 20s,, like almost 100 years!!! if
its in pristine shape 50 years from now these might end up being like
the kemp niver paper 35mm prints that saved many lost films at the lib
of congress some day... this man did Film a great favor,,,the fact I
offerd at 5.00 each is a small cost to the 100s of thousands paid for
at auctions recently..so..I suggest everyone consider the motives....
save Film history?? or merely make money and make this material lost
to public view... I want to make it available to public view and
available to average people so they all can enjoy the artforms.. thank
YOU for your time comments welcome please.
where di you learn about posers?
where did you get set ideas on whats colectable etc// who are your
sourrces where did they learn..
who are considered the most knowledgeable on posters and where did
they get the info..
unnless we where ther when they had stone litho presses who even knows
that process?? where are the stone matrixs used?? you never see them
because they grinded the images off to make new stone lithos..so its
GONE!
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