Tom! Tom! Tom!

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote:

> If Movie Nut wants further education on Mopo I have first class honours
> and a PhD in English Literature, and while Tom's missives may lack a
> certain accuracy in spelling and grammar they have a reminiscence of the
> stream of consciousness of James Joyce. They are never less than
> entertaining, frequently witty, usually informative  and always with the
> ring of plain, old-fashioned honesty. Keep them coming, Tom, and more power
> to your typing fingers.
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Tom Martin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> dear Mr or Ms NUT..... it is true I write long emails, also I talk
>> incessant and spell Horrible. and I quit school at age 15 actually I was
>> EXpelled from school as in art class I drew a picture of Led Zepplin while
>> the othe Kids drew Flowers,,, I wanted to play music.. when The kid got in
>> my face and said Hey Martin why are you not like the rest of us and berated
>> me for my painting as I was in a dream state imagining Plant and page
>> onstage with Marshall amps blaring,, I picked up a ketchup squezze bottle
>> of  tempura purple paint and squirted him between the eyes and said that's
>> the point I dont wiish to be like "the rest Of You."..!!  and you, whomever
>> you are should worry about what your posters are worth instead of my
>> spelling unless you are a teacher and want to give me private lessons and
>> turn me into evelyn wood speed writer!! If I had a bottle of tempra paint
>> that would reach the UK... I would surely let you have it also as nasty
>> rude people that think they can abuse and insult others and ridicule and
>> bully... need to simply behave themselves... I may be a rambler but your
>> words are foul and empty and lack compassion..If your a example of a
>> educated person, then I am proud to be a illiterate and gladly wish to stay
>> the same.. also I might point out most of my mentors and people I look up
>> to lacked a formal education... George Eastman of Kodak quit school at 15,
>> Henry Ford quit, EDison quit , the list goes on.. also did you know MOses
>> spoke with a lisp? see.. Mr Nut.. communication as blues musicians clearly
>> have shown and art, and emotion is not based on spelling or education.. or
>> proper form.... its dancing around the form that allows us to feel and
>> express many things like hurt , pain Love joy and fear and happiness..
>> IMHO...so without insulting You...I will just say try to consider the Big
>> picture of Life and people instead of finding flaws in others..Try to see
>> good in people and help them,,,as you never know the entire story of why
>> they are like they are,,, God bless and wish you a good future,, Tom
>>
>>
>> On 2014-10-03 16:23, THE MOVIE NUT wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, are you related to Leo Tolstoy?  He wrote a book that is a
>>> classic of Russian literature and it is very long.
>>>
>>> Your responses are even longer, but unlike the magnificent prose,
>>> yours is full of ramblings, dreadful spelling and terrible grammar.
>>> You ought to be ashamed of yourself - especially as your scribbling
>>> seem to suggest that you were a very low achiever at
>>> school............................
>>>
>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Martin"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] whats the deal ON MOVIE POster history where did
>>> You get your info from
>>>
>>>
>>>  hello mopers when I joined MOPO in i think te 90s It was to network,
>>>> learn and share ideas and info and also find another ave to sell stuff..
>>>> over the years I met many friends and its been my personal coffe shop where
>>>> I also discus life, kids, peopel and about anything as this group is in the
>>>> same field of work as I... howevere I also see to be a sorat black sheep as
>>>> I amd not a die hard colector nor do I just stay in posters alone but all
>>>> cinema.. even at that Iam like a small country doctor and have never
>>>> pursued major auctions, or real high end iems due to lack of funds partly
>>>> and partly as I have enjoyed serving everyone that show interest in movies
>>>> simple and plain.
>>>> so one of our memebers Jeff  after I posters the Jaws lobby set sad
>>>> dont you know they are wortless because they are laminated?? well ive been
>>>> thinking that very thing over last month... when I 1st met the man and saw
>>>> his collection and overviewed I went stright for what I thought would be
>>>> key items to get back my investment... I kept putting the lobbys aside as I
>>>> also thought they were worthless.. as my posts on mopo will atest I went
>>>> thru phases partly because I didnt know myself what was whet and Parly
>>>> because I had to learn... when I asked about a 1947 returnof the spider
>>>> 1sht I found it to be the only one anyone has ever seen and I sent phhotos
>>>> of it to ed and sue Poole so it could be archived,,,I never knew muchon
>>>> serials but after I looked it seems like a great serial I would like to see
>>>> and the poster took on a special meaning to me as a important
>>>> artifact...when I saw it the man said Its theonly one I ever saw....and he
>>>> seemed like he liked it very much...I had no idea value.. but thought his
>>>> could be a wild card..then was told maybe 200.00 by Rich.... I said even if
>>>> only one in the world??? which got me thinking about entire poster prices
>>>> and where we learn about values and conditions and all... so as I told
>>>> jeff.... and Ill say... its my personal opinion that if a poster has been
>>>> laminated of slabbed or linen backed If it is the original specimin it
>>>> should be as important as any as its 100% genuine.. and has been sealed
>>>> against color fades and any yellowing and deterioation... also I sasked who
>>>> ever came up with the rules anyway??? what specialist where and when???
>>>> what year and who where they??? sure the passed down tradition on news
>>>> groups and auction house is all that but where did they get that Idea??? no
>>>> one knows... when I asked abt the Spider poster,,, I looked at Bruces
>>>> site.. In all my years he has been Honest and open and he has to gues many
>>>> times himself as the facts are not there... actually ED poole called me on
>>>> thephone to explain that they released Mlatary posters and that the morgan
>>>> lith # matched the 41 release date but that it was printed as a combo
>>>> poster,, when I mentioned this others skoffed at it... whenI asked then why
>>>> hasnt anyone ever had one in auction or for sale--  silence...I thank ED,
>>>> and Bruce as thay are very transparent but many collectors remain silent as
>>>> eveyone would like to bu a poster at a steal .. I understand I also like
>>>> deals but also ry to be fair to sellers and when I thought I may have a
>>>> rare one I thought wouldnt it be cool if I could reward him witha bonus if
>>>> I did super great.... so far I have got what I expcted  and a few things I
>>>> thought where good have had minimum results but overall its been fun and
>>>> its best teaching me about genres and getting me able to adapt to my
>>>> lifestyle andmeeting old and new collector friends... Jef debateing with me
>>>> made me consider why did poster peopel get set ideas?? he compared
>>>> furniture as a sample..well years ago whenI coleced Guitars we liked good
>>>> finishes also but then peoel lke he worn shop wornd look with gouges and
>>>> scartches I guess as it looked played so Fennder even offered RELIC guitars
>>>> where they intentionally distress them and screw oup he finish !! go
>>>> figure!! so I told jeff I feel like Galilaeo.... and I say the worlds not
>>>> flat,... as I saw posters are no worthless because they are encapsulated in
>>>> plastic...these are in a rigid palstic.. ultra clear and whts cool is the
>>>> cards are mostly as tehy where when seled so they are white. what confused
>>>> me is that some are blatent reprints on Kodak paper so that threw me off at
>>>> 1st,, but its prety easy to get a feel..so when I asked myself why would
>>>> his detarct... so far no one has a answer....I thought these card show teh
>>>> mage , are the cards from the date and look beautiful... also FORRY
>>>> ackerman did this also;;and he was a colectors colector... the advantage is
>>>> you can pass around and they wont get damaged Ripped, wet or torn and the
>>>> images hold up.. how else could you show a group of kids that want to see
>>>> Posters??? most peopel shudeer just looking atthem by themselves fearing a
>>>> rip or soil etc... so,,I ask everyone who are the most knowledgeable peopel
>>>> in Posters and where did they learn thier INFO?  also what guidlines where
>>>> set and By who?? and where?  as far as professional dealers and appraisers
>>>> who has the ability to state what is what unless they where ther at the
>>>> time...and what bonifide proff is there...? printer record, studio
>>>> records,NSS records.. thelist goes on and on...I would like to know this as
>>>> I try my best to be upfront and accurate but as we know all these posters
>>>> where never intended to be sold , given , away or collected anyways as it
>>>> says on the NSS slug and so from that aspect its all contraband ,,RIGHT?
>>>> when did it becaome acceptable to save and colect posters uses them as
>>>> insulation and floorboards and the like.. it seems sinece the teens and
>>>> 20s.. also If we examine the Movie industry itself,,the reason why hey
>>>> ended up In Hollywood was to get away from EDIson trust henchman that where
>>>> trying to make everyone adhere to his patents... so this is quite a
>>>> elaborate issue of issues..
>>>> In summery...:) I sell his stuff to help peopel enjoy memorys of Movies
>>>> mostly... the images conjure up memorys of your fave films..and some look
>>>> nice on the wall also... thats why I offer repros and ways so that the
>>>> poorist of people can still enjoy that experience.. i also help die hard
>>>> colectors find that gem they want,,I caution everyone against hording ,, as
>>>> whati have learned is Life is very short.... the other day I had a roof
>>>> replaced the guy said 25 year warrantty on thses...I said OK i  58 so that
>>>> means ill be like almost 90 ....I dont think they need to honor the
>>>> warrantty do you?? the colector I bought thee from wa 77 I think he also
>>>> discovered life is short and just wanted to se somone enjoy them and get a
>>>> good home as he worked so hard to save them.. as a steward of his
>>>> collection I have gained a respect for many of the subjects he collected,
>>>> the man and also the movie business and that why I have thought these are
>>>> not worthless at all but are really what the whole idea of collecting and
>>>> saving is about.. preserving for others,,
>>>> even though not reverseable who cares?? why reverse it? these poser
>>>> willoulive most of us...and already have survived without anyspecial
>>>> treatments many since the teens and 20s,, like almost 100 years!!! if its
>>>> in pristine shape 50 years from now these might end up being like the kemp
>>>> niver paper 35mm prints that saved many lost films at the lib of congress
>>>> some day... this man did Film a great favor,,,the fact I offerd at 5.00
>>>> each is a small cost to the 100s of thousands paid for at auctions
>>>> recently..so..I suggest everyone consider the motives.... save Film
>>>> history?? or merely make money and make this material lost to public
>>>> view... I want to make it available to public view and available to average
>>>> people so they all can enjoy the artforms.. thank YOU for your time
>>>> comments welcome please.
>>>> where di you learn about posers?
>>>> where did you get set ideas on whats colectable etc// who are your
>>>> sourrces where did they learn..
>>>> who are considered the most knowledgeable on posters and where did they
>>>> get the info..
>>>> unnless we where ther when they had stone litho presses who even knows
>>>> that process?? where are the stone matrixs used?? you never see them
>>>> because they grinded the images off to make new stone lithos..so its GONE!
>>>>
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