dear Mr or Ms NUT..... it is true I write long emails, also I talk
incessant and spell Horrible. and I quit school at age 15 actually I
was EXpelled from school as in art class I drew a picture of Led
Zepplin while the othe Kids drew Flowers,,, I wanted to play music..
when The kid got in my face and said Hey Martin why are you not like
the rest of us and berated me for my painting as I was in a dream
state imagining Plant and page onstage with Marshall amps blaring,,
I picked up a ketchup squezze bottle of tempura purple paint and
squirted him between the eyes and said that's the point I dont wiish
to be like "the rest Of You."..!! and you, whomever you are should
worry about what your posters are worth instead of my spelling
unless you are a teacher and want to give me private lessons and
turn me into evelyn wood speed writer!! If I had a bottle of tempra
paint that would reach the UK... I would surely let you have it also
as nasty rude people that think they can abuse and insult others and
ridicule and bully... need to simply behave themselves... I may be a
rambler but your words are foul and empty and lack compassion..If
your a example of a educated person, then I am proud to be a
illiterate and gladly wish to stay the same.. also I might point out
most of my mentors and people I look up to lacked a formal
education... George Eastman of Kodak quit school at 15, Henry Ford
quit, EDison quit , the list goes on.. also did you know MOses spoke
with a lisp? see.. Mr Nut.. communication as blues musicians clearly
have shown and art, and emotion is not based on spelling or
education.. or proper form.... its dancing around the form that
allows us to feel and express many things like hurt , pain Love joy
and fear and happiness.. IMHO...so without insulting You...I will
just say try to consider the Big picture of Life and people instead
of finding flaws in others..Try to see good in people and help
them,,,as you never know the entire story of why they are like they
are,,, God bless and wish you a good future,, Tom
On 2014-10-03 16:23, THE MOVIE NUT wrote:
Tom, are you related to Leo Tolstoy? He wrote a book that is a
classic of Russian literature and it is very long.
Your responses are even longer, but unlike the magnificent prose,
yours is full of ramblings, dreadful spelling and terrible grammar.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself - especially as your scribbling
seem to suggest that you were a very low achiever at
school............................
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Martin"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] whats the deal ON MOVIE POster history where
did
You get your info from
hello mopers when I joined MOPO in i think te 90s It was to
network, learn and share ideas and info and also find another ave to
sell stuff.. over the years I met many friends and its been my
personal coffe shop where I also discus life, kids, peopel and about
anything as this group is in the same field of work as I... howevere
I also see to be a sorat black sheep as I amd not a die hard
colector nor do I just stay in posters alone but all cinema.. even
at that Iam like a small country doctor and have never pursued major
auctions, or real high end iems due to lack of funds partly and
partly as I have enjoyed serving everyone that show interest in
movies simple and plain.
so one of our memebers Jeff after I posters the Jaws lobby set sad
dont you know they are wortless because they are laminated?? well
ive been thinking that very thing over last month... when I 1st met
the man and saw his collection and overviewed I went stright for
what I thought would be key items to get back my investment... I
kept putting the lobbys aside as I also thought they were
worthless.. as my posts on mopo will atest I went thru phases partly
because I didnt know myself what was whet and Parly because I had to
learn... when I asked about a 1947 returnof the spider 1sht I found
it to be the only one anyone has ever seen and I sent phhotos of it
to ed and sue Poole so it could be archived,,,I never knew muchon
serials but after I looked it seems like a great serial I would like
to see and the poster took on a special meaning to me as a important
artifact...when I saw it the man said Its theonly one I ever
saw....and he seemed like he liked it very much...I had no idea
value.. but thought his could be a wild card..then was told maybe
200.00 by Rich.... I said even if only one in the world??? which got
me thinking about entire poster prices and where we learn about
values and conditions and all... so as I told jeff.... and Ill
say... its my personal opinion that if a poster has been laminated
of slabbed or linen backed If it is the original specimin it should
be as important as any as its 100% genuine.. and has been sealed
against color fades and any yellowing and deterioation... also I
sasked who ever came up with the rules anyway??? what specialist
where and when??? what year and who where they??? sure the passed
down tradition on news groups and auction house is all that but
where did they get that Idea??? no one knows... when I asked abt the
Spider poster,,, I looked at Bruces site.. In all my years he has
been Honest and open and he has to gues many times himself as the
facts are not there... actually ED poole called me on thephone to
explain that they released Mlatary posters and that the morgan lith
# matched the 41 release date but that it was printed as a combo
poster,, when I mentioned this others skoffed at it... whenI asked
then why hasnt anyone ever had one in auction or for sale--
silence...I thank ED, and Bruce as thay are very transparent but
many collectors remain silent as eveyone would like to bu a poster
at a steal .. I understand I also like deals but also ry to be fair
to sellers and when I thought I may have a rare one I thought
wouldnt it be cool if I could reward him witha bonus if I did super
great.... so far I have got what I expcted and a few things I
thought where good have had minimum results but overall its been fun
and its best teaching me about genres and getting me able to adapt
to my lifestyle andmeeting old and new collector friends... Jef
debateing with me made me consider why did poster peopel get set
ideas?? he compared furniture as a sample..well years ago whenI
coleced Guitars we liked good finishes also but then peoel lke he
worn shop wornd look with gouges and scartches I guess as it looked
played so Fennder even offered RELIC guitars where they
intentionally distress them and screw oup he finish !! go figure!!
so I told jeff I feel like Galilaeo.... and I say the worlds not
flat,... as I saw posters are no worthless because they are
encapsulated in plastic...these are in a rigid palstic.. ultra clear
and whts cool is the cards are mostly as tehy where when seled so
they are white. what confused me is that some are blatent reprints
on Kodak paper so that threw me off at 1st,, but its prety easy to
get a feel..so when I asked myself why would his detarct... so far
no one has a answer....I thought these card show teh mage , are the
cards from the date and look beautiful... also FORRY ackerman did
this also;;and he was a colectors colector... the advantage is you
can pass around and they wont get damaged Ripped, wet or torn and
the images hold up.. how else could you show a group of kids that
want to see Posters??? most peopel shudeer just looking atthem by
themselves fearing a rip or soil etc... so,,I ask everyone who are
the most knowledgeable peopel in Posters and where did they learn
thier INFO? also what guidlines where set and By who?? and where?
as far as professional dealers and appraisers who has the ability to
state what is what unless they where ther at the time...and what
bonifide proff is there...? printer record, studio records,NSS
records.. thelist goes on and on...I would like to know this as I
try my best to be upfront and accurate but as we know all these
posters where never intended to be sold , given , away or collected
anyways as it says on the NSS slug and so from that aspect its all
contraband ,,RIGHT? when did it becaome acceptable to save and
colect posters uses them as insulation and floorboards and the
like.. it seems sinece the teens and 20s.. also If we examine the
Movie industry itself,,the reason why hey ended up In Hollywood was
to get away from EDIson trust henchman that where trying to make
everyone adhere to his patents... so this is quite a elaborate issue
of issues..
In summery...:) I sell his stuff to help peopel enjoy memorys of
Movies mostly... the images conjure up memorys of your fave
films..and some look nice on the wall also... thats why I offer
repros and ways so that the poorist of people can still enjoy that
experience.. i also help die hard colectors find that gem they
want,,I caution everyone against hording ,, as whati have learned is
Life is very short.... the other day I had a roof replaced the guy
said 25 year warrantty on thses...I said OK i 58 so that means ill
be like almost 90 ....I dont think they need to honor the warrantty
do you?? the colector I bought thee from wa 77 I think he also
discovered life is short and just wanted to se somone enjoy them and
get a good home as he worked so hard to save them.. as a steward of
his collection I have gained a respect for many of the subjects he
collected, the man and also the movie business and that why I have
thought these are not worthless at all but are really what the whole
idea of collecting and saving is about.. preserving for others,,
even though not reverseable who cares?? why reverse it? these poser
willoulive most of us...and already have survived without anyspecial
treatments many since the teens and 20s,, like almost 100 years!!!
if its in pristine shape 50 years from now these might end up being
like the kemp niver paper 35mm prints that saved many lost films at
the lib of congress some day... this man did Film a great
favor,,,the fact I offerd at 5.00 each is a small cost to the 100s
of thousands paid for at auctions recently..so..I suggest everyone
consider the motives.... save Film history?? or merely make money
and make this material lost to public view... I want to make it
available to public view and available to average people so they all
can enjoy the artforms.. thank YOU for your time comments welcome
please.
where di you learn about posers?
where did you get set ideas on whats colectable etc// who are your
sourrces where did they learn..
who are considered the most knowledgeable on posters and where did
they get the info..
unnless we where ther when they had stone litho presses who even
knows that process?? where are the stone matrixs used?? you never
see them because they grinded the images off to make new stone
lithos..so its GONE!
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