Hello, All

I was not sure what this was about.  My post was indeed just a tossed-off 
comment that I’m not leaving MOPO.  Not sure what this was about, but, for the 
record, stalking anyone by any means or for any reason is seriously wrong.

Kirby


> On Jul 1, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Charles Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Filip,
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out to me.  I have no doubt Kirby is a great 
> gentleman and I apologize to Kirby if people thought I was suggesting that he 
> was not.  His playful e-mail was first up and that is the only reason it was 
> in response to him.  I have no doubt that he would aid the damsel in 
> distress. 
> 
> I also apologize to the rest of MOPO for what is now obvious to me - that you 
> guys have no idea what my e-mails are referring to.  I was under the 
> impression that there had been a couple of discussions on this subject 
> already.
> 
> As far as throwing it out in the open, to divulge all the details would be 
> irresponsible since, as I said in my first e-mail, that it is only an 
> "alleged" incident.  Essentially (as could have been predicted) now a "he 
> said - she said" situation from some back and forth this past evening.  I am 
> just aware of how someone was made to feel - after that, arguing the details 
> is irrelevant IMO.
> 
> Maybe the take-away from this saga is to just keep an eye out and be 
> vigilant.  Similar to exactly what you, Filip, have done here. Take up for 
> your fellow collector when necessary and make them feel welcome and supported 
> versus allowing fear and intimidation to creep in.  No one should be made to 
> feel uncomfortable - I think we would agree that there is no place for that 
> in our hobby.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Charlie 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of filip de volder 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] I just want you all to know
>  
> 
> Hi,when you say David was standing up for  a lady and you blame this other 
> gentleman from texas that he doesn't , how is this gentleman supposed to know 
> this stalking thing if  the "standing up " of David was expressed by this " 
> statement "  : 
> 
> For personal reasons it is time for me to remove myself from this forum.
> 
> I have appreciated my years here.
> 
> Good-bye and good luck
> 
> I don't see any reference here  to stalking
> and if i understand correctly the stalking didn't happen here on mopo , so no 
> one here knows about it ,  i've never read anything about this here on mopo 
> unless i've missed something ?? 
> 
> 
> if someone is stalking then wouldn't it be best to throw it in the open , 
> reveal his messages and his identity ?
> instead  no one is aware of it and  a gentleman from Texas of all places is 
> being pointed at  and may now be suffering greatly realizing he may be  a 
> moral nitwit 
> I'm standing up here for Kirby !
> you are and will always be a great gentleman 
> 
> filip
> 
> From: MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Stevens 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] I just want you all to know
>  
> You are right. Why would I bother posting about physical stalking on an 
> Internet forum about posters...  I don't understand the need to justify or 
> define whether it is physical or electronic. But yes, someone in our small 
> community was made to feel uncomfortable over the internet. We should still 
> be brave enough to stand up for those in our hobby, even if we only know them 
> by their avatar. Of course it didn't happen here on MOPO but I never thought 
> it would happen where it did.
> 
> Interestingly, internet stalking or cyberstalking is a crime in many 
> countries and states in the US.
> 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking>
> Cyberstalking - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking>
> en.m.wikipedia.org
> Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk 
> or harass an individual, group, or organization. It may include false 
> accusations ...
> 
> 
> Charlie
> 
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> From: Zeev Drach <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [MOPO] I just want you all to know
> To: 'Charles Stevens' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> 
> 
> When you say “stalking”, do you mean by sending private emails on the 
> internet, or actual physical stalking?  In which case they must be living in 
> the same town or something.  Sounds like a remote possibility…
>  
> Zeev
>  
>  
> From: MoPo List [ MoPo List [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>]On Behalf Of Charles Stevens
> Sent: June-30-17 6:42 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] I just want you all to know
>  
> I want you all to know...
>  
> That David was just making a personal statement against the characters that 
> run this listserv and a recent increase in activity from a certain member.  
> David thought it important to share the fact (maybe not in the best way) that 
> a member had "allegedly" stalked an ever so rare female poster collector to 
> the point where she expressed her own fears, was made totally uncomfortable 
> and even more that she has asked us not to reveal.  She had ask this member 
> to leave her alone many times, yet he followed her over to VMPF right after 
> she started posting there. I can imagine when perhaps David felt his 
> conversation with the moderators here were going nowhere, he was sicken by 
> it.  There is no reason to tarnish MOPO's credibility if this member should 
> attempt to do the same here - so we should all keep an eye out. David has 
> strong convictions in this matter and was standing up for a wonderful lady 
> (and women in general that face stalking and intimidation) - something I 
> would think many of us would agree is the right thing to do.  Especially 
> another gentleman from Texas.
>  
> Charlie
>  
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> From: MoPo List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Kirby McDaniel 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:17:18 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [MOPO] I just want you all to know
>  
> That I’m still here.  Ain’t leavin’. 
>  
> Yet.
>  
> Kirby
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>  
> Kirby McDaniel
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