The part I don’t understand is why tax the cheaper shipments & let the more expensive ones through?
sam posteritati.com <https://posteritati.com/> 239 Centre St FL 4 | New York, NY 10013 | 212.226.2207 Instagram <https://instagram.com/posteritati> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/posteritati> | Facebook <https://facebook.com/posteritati> | Pinterest <https://pinterest.com/posteritati> > On Feb 14, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Helmut Hamm <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > > we'll have to wait and see, but I think it is utterly impossible to enforce > that new rule. In effect, it would mean that EVERYBODY who wants to ship > ANYTHING to the UK would have to apply for a VAT number. If that rule was > enforced, it will be easier to ship to North Korea. > > Helmut > > >> Am 14.02.2021 um 00:27 schrieb Moviemem Original Movie Posters >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> That sums it up very well Helmut >> I have had a few customers telling me that they have received their packages >> (valued at over 135 pounds) and had no VAT or charges. I guess that won’t >> last but they will be picking up a lot of extra revenue from larger >> organizations like eBay so they will probably see It as a success. The risk >> for smaller sellers is that packages will be returned to sender because they >> have not followed the rules. >> >> Regards >> >> John >> >> John Reid >> Moviemem Original Movie Posters >> www.moviemem.com <http://www.moviemem.com/> >> Like Us on Facebook >> <https://www.facebook.com/moviememmovieposters/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf> >> PO Box 92 >> Elanora >> Qld 4221 >> Australia >> Phone: 0414 720 369 >> >> From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] >> Sent: 14 February, 2021 12:06 AM >> To: Moviemem Original Movie Posters <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] UK VAT number >> >> It seem obvious that the pencil pushers have simply tried to copy the ebay >> sales tax model and now try to apply it to anybody else. >> >> The €150 (GBP 135) cut-off value only applies when goods are shipped to >> private sellers. Apparently the regulations make no difference if the sender >> is a business or a private party. Which means, EVERYBODY who wants to ship >> ANYTHING to the UK will have to apply for British VAT number. Since there is >> no lower end cut-off, anybody trying to send a bar of chocolate to the UK >> will now need a British VAT number. >> >> To make things worse: Resellers can be exempt from the Import VAT, but they >> will need to apply for an EORI tax number in the sender's country. So if I >> ship to to a business in the UK, the recipient will need to apply for a >> German tax ID. >> >> Also, how should the VAT be calculated? Unlike the US, where sales tax is >> added on top, EU prices must include applicable VAT. And what about sellers >> who are on margin taxation and do not declare any separate VAT at all? >> >> Lastly, how do they expect to get paid? Cash in a registered letter, >> perhaps, sent to 'HM the Queen, Buckingham Palace, London'? >> >> I honestly believe that the new requirements are absolutely impossible to >> enforce on small businesses. I should take a while until the pencil pushers >> realize this, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. >> >> IN PRACTICE, I currently treat my UK orders like any other export shipment: >> For values under I €1000 I file a simplified customs declaration. You have >> all seen these: 'poster print, value, signature, date'. So far, this seems >> to be sufficient for the mail services. >> >> UPS, Fedex, DHL Express want to you write a Proforma Invoice, basically the >> same thing, but on larger sheet of paper. You can also include a commercial >> invoice instead. For values of €1000 and up in Germany ($2500 in the US) you >> will need to file an export declaration. Unless you are a transport >> specialist, it's almost impossible to fill this correctly. These requirement >> have nothing to do with the Brexit, though. They apply to any export >> shipment. >> >> So far, all shipments to the UK have gone through without problems. >> >> Very much UNLIKE my recent shipments to the US, though: Something is >> SERIOUSLY wrong with USPS, US Customs, US Homeland Security, or whatever >> other agency is meddling in the mail services these days. I have several >> shipment that were send in November and early December to the US that still >> have not cleared customs. I spoke to a colleague yesterday, and he told me >> had one package that took 15 weeks to arrive. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Helmut >> >> www.filmposter.net <http://www.filmposter.net/> >> >> >> Am 13.02.2021 um 03:04 schrieb Moviemem Original Movie Posters >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> Hi Sam >> I have been selling quite a lot to the UK through eBay over the last month. >> eBay automatically adds the VAT to the total amount including postage to all >> UK transactions (incidentally, many customers don’t realise that the VAT >> also applies to postage). I have no idea how customs will differentiate >> between eBay transactions and separate website transactions and how they >> will work out whether the VAT has been paid or not. >> >> I would be interested to hear how Heritage and Emovieposter are dealing with >> it. >> >> Regards >> >> John >> >> John Reid >> Moviemem Original Movie Posters >> www.moviemem.com <http://www.moviemem.com/> >> Like Us on Facebook >> <https://www.facebook.com/moviememmovieposters/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf> >> PO Box 92 >> Elanora >> Qld 4221 >> Australia >> Phone: 0414 720 369 >> >> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Sam Sarowitz >> Sent: 13 February, 2021 11:55 AM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] UK VAT number >> >> We applied around 2 months ago & have not heard a word FYI. I’ve tried to >> call which is useless. Seems like they created these new rules with no one >> to deal with it & the ramifications. >> >> best, >> sam >> >> posteritati.com <https://posteritati.com/> >> 239 Centre St FL 4 | New York, NY 10013 | 212.226.2207 >> Instagram <https://instagram.com/posteritati> | Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/posteritati> | Facebook >> <https://facebook.com/posteritati> | Pinterest >> <https://pinterest.com/posteritati> >> >> >> >> On Feb 12, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Susan Heim <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Count me in as well. I've researched it but it's all a bit confusing. >> >> Sue >> Hollywood Poster Frames >> (800) 463-2994 >> >> From: MoPo List <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Moviemem Original Movie >> Posters <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:15 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] UK VAT number >> >> Good question Stan >> I would also be interested to hear how other sellers are dealing with the >> new customs requirements throughout Europe as well as the UK. >> >> Regards >> >> John >> >> John Reid >> Moviemem Original Movie Posters >> www.moviemem.com >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moviemem.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbc153a25a91d4ac4bfa908d8cfa3b2c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487649284054187%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Q4rNNVzbOj%2Bv4CeZNlfyofvtJGo56jWCnzRIk1KBxdw%3D&reserved=0> >> Like Us on Facebook >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmoviememmovieposters%2F%3Fhc_ref%3DSEARCH%26fref%3Dnf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbc153a25a91d4ac4bfa908d8cfa3b2c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487649284064177%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=S5xr8njCYCgX6Rc8kjz%2FsG%2BaDcV2lGLuQZhAlYAArQU%3D&reserved=0> >> PO Box 92 >> Elanora >> Qld 4221 >> Australia >> Phone: 0414 720 369 >> >> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Posteritati >> Sent: 13 February, 2021 3:22 AM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: [MOPO] UK VAT number >> >> Hi MOPO, >> >> Has anyone actually been able to get a UK VAT number in order to be able to >> ship under 135 GBP orders to the UK? 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