Grey is correct. Bidders should always use an auction house's dedicated bidding platform vs. one run by a third party. For the PropStore sale, I bookmarked a lot of items. Not once did I consider bidding or even "watching" through another "layer" via Invaluable.
Some houses allow third-party platforms to run parallel to their own platforms, e.g., Invaluable, Live Auctioneers, etc. - which yes, do take an additional cut from bidders and are vulnerable to lags. I totally get that they allow for a wider net of potential bidders, esp. for smaller houses who save money not running their own bid sites. But they also strike me as auction consolidation / "brokerage" accounts for MANY auction houses being platformed on one site. I won't use them unless they're the ONLY platform used by a house. (Sometimes you find out when you visit the auction house website and try to bid - and you're re-directed to a third party platform with a different domain address. That's how you know.) The only time a third-party platform makes sense to buyers is when they're exclusive to an auction house and not redundant, e.g., eMoviePoster's bidders, whether they know it or not, use the Auction Anything platform / software - but this is the ONLY platform in use by eMoviePoster. You're not going to find its items on Invaluable or on any third party bidding platform. (BTW, Auction Anything has other, lesser known auction house clients whose sales look vastly different - despite a few software similarities you can spot. It's a reliable platform with the client having full control of its content - and lags or outages are rare.) I do feel for Glenn in one sense because registrations are approved by the house - but sometimes this goes through the third party platform so he was probably unaware he could have gone straight to PropStore or contacted Grey direct. -d. ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Glenn Taranto <exit82afi...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 8:59 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh? Grey, Greg, Rich et al - 1) I didn't know there was any kind of upcharge for bidding through Invaluable. Never again. 2) I've won through Invaluable before without any issues. 3) How or Why is Propstore affiliated with Invaluable in the first place? Very confusing if you don't want us bidding through them. 4) Why was my bid not accepted? Glenn ---- On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:43 AM Grey Smith <greysm6...@gmail.com<mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>> wrote: Greg This was all done by Invaluable. Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was approved to bid there.. On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone. I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on Invaluable, but since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been significant. ---- On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass <pickmeis...@mail.com<mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote: Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM From: "Grey Smith" <greysm6...@gmail.com<mailto:greysm6...@gmail.com>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh? It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get it; "bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore? I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it framed on my wall, when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and crushes me with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take things like that well. It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had indeed outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a great price... Greg Douglass Beautiful Coos Bay, OR Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase? I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s great interactive live platform or by phone? ---- On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor <nailman...@gmail.com<mailto:nailman...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction. All other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means Invaluable bid loses. ---- On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto <exit82afi...@gmail.com<mailto:exit82afi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Greg, et al - How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while now. Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days... Guess not!!! Invaluable SUCKS!!!! Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD My Max Bid:$250 USD Sold: $250 USD Propstore Los Angeles <https://www.invaluable.com/auction-house/propstore-los-angeles-dl2toro7zi> April 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US Bidder Bid Type Bid Date/Time Amount Status Floor Floor 4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM $250 Winner e***m Absentee 4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM $250 Submitted, not accepted Glenn ---- On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass <pickmeis...@mail.com<mailto:pickmeis...@mail.com>> wrote: Sigh. There was a "Wasp Woman" half sheet that I was ready to go to any financial lengths to get at Sunday's auction. I glanced at the ending time before I went out for a hike with my wife and thought, "Wow, 3:30? I can do that easily!" 3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and the poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike? Greg Douglass Coos Bay, OR Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
