Well said David. I understand why propstore employed the use of the third party sites but why anyone would use those sites knowing they can go directly to propstore is beyond me.
On the positive side I’m thankful for another poster venue with signature quality auctions. Particularly since it appears that heritage will never get their shit together as the December 2023 auction became the Jan, then Feb, then March, then April, and now May (soon to be October at this rate) auction. I’m thankful that Grey Smith is building another excellent venue. The hobby dearly needs it. Peter On Friday, April 19, 2024, David Kusumoto <[email protected]> wrote: > Grey is correct. Bidders should always use an auction house's dedicated > bidding platform vs. one run by a third party. For the PropStore sale, I > bookmarked a lot of items. Not once did I consider bidding or even > "watching" through another "layer" via Invaluable. > > Some houses allow third-party platforms to run parallel to their own > platforms, e.g., Invaluable, Live Auctioneers, etc. - which yes, do take an > additional cut from bidders and are vulnerable to lags. I totally get that > they allow for a wider net of potential bidders, esp. for smaller houses > who save money not running their own bid sites. But they also strike me as > auction consolidation / "brokerage" accounts for MANY auction houses being > platformed on one site. I won't use them unless they're the ONLY platform > used by a house. (Sometimes you find out when you visit the auction house > website and try to bid - and you're re-directed to a third party platform > with a different domain address. That's how you know.) > > The only time a third-party platform makes sense to buyers is when they're > exclusive to an auction house and not redundant, e.g., eMoviePoster's > bidders, whether they know it or not, use the Auction Anything platform / > software - but this is the ONLY platform in use by eMoviePoster. You're > not going to find its items on Invaluable or on any third party bidding > platform. (BTW, Auction Anything has other, lesser known auction house > clients whose sales look vastly different - despite a few software > similarities you can spot. It's a reliable platform with the client having > full control of its content - and lags or outages are rare.) > > I do feel for Glenn in one sense because registrations are approved by the > house - but sometimes this goes through the third party platform so he was > probably unaware he could have gone straight to PropStore or contacted Grey > direct. -d. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Glenn > Taranto <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2024 8:59 AM > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh? > > Grey, Greg, Rich et al - > > 1) I didn't know there was any kind of upcharge for bidding through > Invaluable. Never again. > 2) I've won through Invaluable before without any issues. > 3) How or Why is Propstore affiliated with Invaluable in the first place? > Very confusing if you don't want us bidding through them. > 4) Why was my bid not accepted? > > Glenn > > ---- > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:43 AM Grey Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Greg > This was all done by Invaluable. > Glenn should have gone to the PeopStore site to place his bids and was > approved to bid there.. > On that site, you have fully interactive bidding and can also bid by phone. > I do believe he should have had a chance to increase his bid on > Invaluable, but since it is a third-party site, the lag could have been > significant. > > ---- > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Greg Douglass <[email protected]> > wrote: > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 3:57 PM > *From:* "Grey Smith" <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Popstore April Auction -What The, Huh? > > It appears that you were the winner by a few seconds, Glenn. I don't get > it; "bid not accepted?" Who did you piss off at Propstore? > I've been watching an auction more than a few times, already imagining it > framed on my wall, when some nerd with a sniping app comes in and crushes > me with half a second to go. I'm a sore loser by nature so I don't take > things like that well. > It seems like the final price should have been higher if Invaluable had > indeed outbid you. It's a bit confusing. Jesus, 250 bucks would have been a > great price... > Greg Douglass > Beautiful Coos Bay, OR > > Yes, but does the invaluable bidder not have a chance to increase? > I’m not sure why one wouldn’t bid invaluable instead of on PropStore’s > great interactive live platform or by phone? > > ---- > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:17 PM Chris Nailor <[email protected]> wrote: > I have seen this a lot. Invaluable bids post at the close of the auction. > All other bids are previous bids. So, two bids of the same amount means > Invaluable bid loses. > > ---- > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Glenn Taranto <[email protected]> > wrote: > Greg, et al - > > How's this for auction fun on a poster I've been looking for for a while > now. > > Here I thought I was the high bidder for the last few days... > > Guess not!!! > > Invaluable SUCKS!!!! > > *Lot 314: YOUNG DONOVAN'S KID - One Sheet (27" x 41"); Fine on Linen* > Est: $500 USD - $1,000 USD > *My Max Bid:$250 USD* > *Sold: *$250 USD > Propstore Los Angeles > <https://www.invaluable.com/auction-house/propstore-los-angeles-dl2toro7zi>April > 18, 2024Valencia, CA, US > > Bidder > Bid Type > Bid Date/Time > Amount > Status > Floor > Floor > 4/18/2024, 1:44:26 PM > $250 > Winner > *e***m* > *Absentee* > *4/18/2024, 1:44:22 PM* > *$250* > *Submitted, not accepted* > > Glenn > > ---- > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM Greg Douglass <[email protected]> > wrote: > Sigh. > > There was a "Wasp Woman" half sheet that I was ready to go to any > financial lengths to get at Sunday's auction. I glanced at the ending time > before I went out for a hike with my wife and thought, "Wow, 3:30? I can do > that easily!" > 3:30 CENTRAL Daylight Time. Not PDT, not EDT. I ran into my office and the > poster had gone for a price that I would have matched. D'oh! The thrill of > victory, the agony of defeat. > The big surprise to me was the 1959 Hammer "The Mummy" half sheet that > sold for 3K+. What made this title take a sudden spike? > Greg Douglass > Coos Bay, OR > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
