Indeed, When I used the word "ubiquity", Ham replied to me as having said "ubiquity of human consciousnes", when I meant just "ubiquity of consciousnes", how many brackets must I use in one sentence?
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 July 2007 23:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Moq_Discuss] [MD] Aristotle & DQ > > > Quoting Ham Priday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Consciousness (awareness) is the cognizant attribute of > being human, but I > > do not regard it as the "primary" reality because it is a > relative function. > > We are aware of value, and we are cognizant of the "things" > that value > > represents in a relational system. I distinguish awareness > from Sensibility > > (from which individuated awareness is derived), attributing > the former to > > the primary source (Essence). > > Hi Ham, > > Been awhile since we locked horns and I'm sure you're not of > a mind to rehash > old arguments. But, I can't help but take issue with your > assertion that > "consciousness (awareness) is a cognizant attribute of being > human" since I'm > convinced beyond a doubt that my cat, UTOE, is also aware and > knowledgeable > albeit not at the same level as you and I. Now, maybe you > didn't exclude nonhumans > in your statement, but that's how I read it. As for > "sensibility," that too extends > way down the biological chain to the lowliest virus. Finally, > if you think of > consciousness as I do as being everything there is then > consciousness is not a > "relative function" but simply awareness of awareness. As the > physicist Erwin > Schroedinger put it, "The external and consciousness are one > and the same thing." > Or, in the same vein, William James: "This paper (computer > screen) and the seeing of > it are two names for one indivisible fact." (Parens added). > In other words, > consciousness and reality are but two sides of the same coin. > But, I could be > wrong. > > Warm regards, > Platt > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the > Government Secure Intranet Anti-Virus service supplied by > Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM > Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) In case of problems, please > call your organisations IT Helpdesk. > Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, > monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. > > > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the > attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, > disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are > not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and > inform the sender by return e-mail. > > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the > attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, > disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are > not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and > inform the sender by return e-mail. > > This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may > be monitored, recorded and retained by the Ministry of > Justice. E-mail monitoring / blocking software may be used, > and e-mail content may be read at any time. You have a > responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing > or forwarding e-mails and their contents. > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and inform the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, recorded and retained by the Ministry of Justice. E-mail monitoring / blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at any time. You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents. The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet Anti-Virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
