Hi Jos, Yes, of course. Good point. I get that, it would be the same with moi.
Marsha At 04:40 AM 7/25/2007, you wrote: >My point is that as soon as you get to "the essential source jos was >referring to was:....." >the next word that you enter will be wrong. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MarshaV > > Sent: 24 July 2007 22:44 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Moq_Discuss] [MD] Aristotle & DQ > > > > > > > > Hi SA, > > > > My assumption was that the 'essential source' Jos was referring to > > was 'nothingness' because of the summary's reference. That's why I > > agreed, but maybe I assumed wrong. > > > > Marsha > > > > At 05:23 PM 7/24/2007, you wrote: > > > [Jos] > > > > Fair point, > > > > but even the words "dynamic" and "quality" are > > > > assumptions overlaid on that essential source. > > > > > > > > > By who? You? What essential source overlay, > > >what? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Behalf Of MarshaV > > > > > Sent: 24 July 2007 10:41 > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [Moq_Discuss] [MD] Aristotle & DQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From, 'A brief summary of the Metaphysics of > > > > Quality' > > > > > by Robert Pirsig October 2005 > > > > > > > > > > "The Metaphysics of Quality, or MOQ, is simply a > > > > philosophic answer > > > > > to the question of what is Quality, or worth, or > > > > merit, or value, or > > > > > betterness or any of the other synonyms for good. > > > > There are many > > > > > possible answers but the one the MOQ gives is that > > > > you can understand > > > > > Quality best if you don't subordinate it to > > > > anything else but instead > > > > > subordinate everything else to it. > > > > > > > > > > It says there are two basic kinds of Quality, an > > > > undefined Quality > > > > > called Dynamic Quality, and a defined quality > > > > called static quality. > > > > > Static quality is further divided into four > > > > evolutionary divisions: > > > > > inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. > > > > Our entire > > > > > understanding of the world can be organized within > > > > this framework. > > > > > When you do so things fall into place that were > > > > poorly defined > > > > > before, and new things appear that were concealed > > > > under previous > > > > > frameworks of understanding. The MOQ is not > > > > intended to deny previous > > > > > modes of understanding as much as to expand them > > > > into a more > > > > > inclusive picture of what it's all about. > > > > > > > > > > The "Quality" of the Metaphysics of Quality is not > > > > a basic substance, > > > > > or anything like it. 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