Hi SA (and David M mentioned)

Trial and error yes, but trial using well informed (and well
intentioned) strategies have to be better than trials based on
coin-tosses or dogmatic prejudices surely ? Particularly if the
"trial" is a social experiment where the downside risk hurts people ?

However yes, self-organising systems of life help us crawl up the
improbable mountain. And again Yes, the answer to my question is a
process. Your "isness" is a "doing".

Unless you suggesting a "free for all, and let's just see what
evolves" as the best strategy, we are still left with quality
questions of what is good .... and latching on to the good (the best
so far), taking it forward, without cramping the possibilities for
further evolution .... we've just shifted the question to features of
the process, rather than any fixed "answer" to my who question (my how
question was always looking for process as the answer anyway)

Interestingly you have just rephrased my recurring question.

Assuming total freedom, anything goes anarchy, is not the optimum
answer, my question about what is the best form of governance (of
anything) is a matter of "What are the best processes of governance".
The question of judging "best" - the matter of values - will just not
go away ?

Ian

On 8/18/07, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     [Ian]
> > Serious issue is who is wise enough to judge who is
> a fool, and be
> > entrusted with the power to keep the lid on the box?
>
>     I've seen many write trial and error here before.
>  I read this by you Ian, and self-organization seems
> to allow for trial and error.  Can our reasoning
> become better organized in how it flows with life?  It
> seems that's what we're doing anyways, therefore not
> so much a question, but more a isness.
>
> woods,
> SA
>
>
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