Hi Joe/all What role do ideas play in our experience? Derrida suggests ideas/language require writing, and begin with writing. I agree with this. Ideas are our way of making sense of our experience and differentiating objects and other patterns out of our whole experience. How do we seperate the ground from the sky? Well we draw a line, a form of writing, between the two. It is an imaginary line and we call it the horizon. We do the same when we differentiate the nose from the face. We can then imagine the nose on its own without a face, we have drawn a line round the nose and then cut round it in our imagination. So imagination is the great power we use to make sense of our experience/s. What is this power? A power that enables not just to take experience as it is given but to enrich experience and evolve? Seems to me it shows that we are dealing not only with a constantly changing environment open to DQ, but that we too are a dynamic complex of evolving or dis-evolving patterns open to DQ. Having ideas, enriching your experience, taking on new ideas from others, is the DQ of human being.
Regards David M > On 14 August 2007 11:01:27 AM Ron links to William James. > > Hi Ron and All, > > As I read through the link I felt a familiarity. I don’t know if I had > read it before or if the subject matter was familiar to me. IMO James was > speaking of a "theory" of knowledge rather than "Consciousness". > > Plato proposed we know through a world of ideas. Plotinus added to that > mystical knowledge. > Aristotle proposed a theory of knowledge, later refined by Thomas Aquinas, > based on abstraction. SOM is based on this theory of knowledge. > > Pirsig saw the difficulty of dividing the "knower" and the known, and > united them by value and experience. Pirsig also proposed levels of value > and IMO the social level is the level of consciousness "I am empty". > > Joe > > >/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
