Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > Well said. Am I right to assume you are against race-based programs like > affirmative action? > > [Arlo] > I am against them in a better world. Like Ant eloquently said, there is a role > for programs aimed at correcting gross social injustices.
By insulting blacks by saying they are incapable of being fully responsible for their own advancement? I don't think so. > While I hate the idea > of "quotas", I can't help but think that those against them are so because > they > hate the idea of working with minorities. We need a strong dialogue to > overcome > this "racial divide", and when that happens let me know. When you think the "racial divide" can be solved by treating blacks differently from everybody else, let me know. > I mean, I pine for the day when it truly qualified candidates who get any > position, in school or in labor, and everyone is truly blind to irrelevencies > like skin-color and social customs. I think the day will come a lot sooner if we stop treating skin-color as the badge of a victim. > [Platt] > Also, how should we talk about the murder rate and other problems that for > whatever reason are worse in black inner city ghettos? > > [Arlo] > Like I said in the other post, you should talk about what you think are the > qualifying problems. If its the "inner-city", then we can address specific > ways > to combat those problems. For example, the crime rate is always higher in > places with high unemployment rates. Is it the concentration of impoverished > peoples? Was putting all the poor in little concentrated areas really a good > decision? Unemployment and poverty are not necessarily qualifying problems. That the crime rate did not increase significantly during the great depression put the lie to that old canard. Drugs, yes. Rap culture, which is primarily black, yes. > If you use the qualifier "black", it must be because you see this > characteristic as being part of the problem. I'll hope you don't side with the > white supremecists who believe its a genetic inferiority. Is it then part of > the "black culture"? What parts? Again, you claim the problem is the result of > a failure of intellect, but why has that failure only effected "blacks" in > your > eyes? The failure of intellect has affected everyone, or don't you agree with Pirsig? > [Platt] > Should we turn a blind eye to fact that terrorists are most likely to be > Muslims and should be so identified if efforts to protect citizens? > > [Arlo] > We have every right to be more cautious, but we should also realize how quick > fear can turn into hatred. Or be leveraged to achieve political power. > Vigilance, not xenophobia. Yes, viligance, not political correctness. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
