> [Arlo had said] > That's the problem, they often aren't. That's what these programs were > designed to correct. You seem to think the utopic world where people are > judged by the actions and not their skin color already exists. Sadly, too > many are judged unequally by such irrelevant characteristics such as > thecolor of their skin. > > [Platt] > You condemn a large part of a single race as incompetent? > > [Arlo] > You see, it is this twisted and deceitful and vile talk-radio rhetoric that > disgusts and shames me. No, obviously I said that that the competence of > many blacks is not a factor in their success.
If it was obvious I wouldn't have asked the question. To say that a question is twisted and deceitful and vile talk-radio rhetoric (which you have never defined) is itself twisted and deceitful. Nor do I agree with your follow up statement that "competence of many blacks is not a factor in their success," suggesting many blacks who are successful are not competent. > [Platt] > You think the scenario would be different if Mexicans or Arabs were looking > at the house? You think blacks would react differently if Koreans were > looking to open a business in a black neighborhood? > > [Arlo] > No, I dont think it would have been any different if Mexicans or Arabs were > looking at the house. What does that have to do with anything but prove my > point that people ARE judged by the color of their skin, than many > competent and GOOD people are not afforded a fair chance solely because > their skin contains pigment. It means human nature is what it is. And what's this about a "fair chance?" >And yes, I don't think it is only "whites" who > are drawn into racial hatred. Have YOU ever been denied buying a house? Or > opening a storefront? Have YOU ever found it odd that as soon as you start > looking at homes in a neighborhood, suddenly none are for sale any longer? > Racism against whites is a problem, but blacks lack the power to really > effect your life because of it. Racism against blacks (and other > minorities) often does alter their lives. Blacks lack the power? Yeah, right. I know blacks who have been promoted over whites simply because of their skin color. Yes, such racism does alter lives. > Again, the bottom line is that all people have to stop using this > irrelevant "race" card, all people have to stop seeing "blacks and white" > and see only people. > > [Platt] > Until then let's not treat the poor whatever their color as helpless > victims. > > [Arlo] > No, let's treat the poor with compassion and assistance. But let's > recognize that "blacks" are, in fact, often victims (as was the woman > seeking to buy the house) of racist thinking, thinking that not only is > rhetorical xenophobia, but in this case as an example, determined whether > or not she was able to buy a home in a nice neighborhood like anyone else > would want. To treat the poor with compassion and assistance, blacks or otherwise, is to imply that they can't help themselves. That may make you feel good but it's a huge slap in the face to the supposed victim. It's exactly that sort of holier-than-thou attitude that breeds resentment and largely accounts for the utter failure of government handouts and welfare programs to alleviate poverty. > [Arlo had said] > Sadly, those who most loudly assault "political correctness" are the ones > most likely to slide right into xenophobia. > > [Platt] > Evidence? > > [Arlo] > Platt's post to this forum. Again, no evidence. Just another smear. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
