if i may gentlemen....
platt:
>
> To the best of my recollection this is the first
> time anyone has mentioned
> that the MOQ has two viewpoints, one static and
> other Dynamic. If that
> is so, where in Lila and elsewhere in Pirsig's
> writings can we pinpoint
> the difference between the world of "everyday
> affairs" (the realm of SOM)
> and the realm of the Dynamic? I always thought the
> description of leaping
> off a hot stove was from the world of everyday
> affairs, as was the story
> of the brujo and the quotation form Humphrey., "I"ve
> seen enough of the
> this." That's why to me the MOQ "viewpoint" took
> our everyday experience
> of everyday events and provided a new interpretation
> whereby instead of
> experiencing subjects and objects we experience
> patterns of value and a
> creative force called Dynamic Quality, and where an
> "individual," like
> every other subject or object, really consists of
> value patterns. To me
> the breakthrough concept, explicated logically by
> Pirsig in Lila, is that
> reality is an evolutionary moral order.
>
> So I ask in all sincerity, what am I missing? Is the
> MOQ based on some
> experience other than experience of everyday
> affairs? If so, how come
> ZMM and Lila are grounded in everyday affairs?
chapter 17 of lila deals with this issue.
"....He had come to think of dreams as Dynamic
perceptions of reality. They were suppressed and
filtered out of consciousness by conventional patterns
of static social and intellectual order but they
revealed a primary truth: a value truth. The static
patterns of the dreams were false but the underlying
values that produced the patterns were true. ***In
static reality**** there is no octopus coming to
squeeze us to death, no giant that is going to devour
us and digest us and turn us into a part of its own
body so that it can grow stronger and stronger while
we are dissolved and lost into nothingness. But in
****Dynamic reality*****?"
Dynamic reality is capitalised because it is primary,
fundamental more 'real' than static reality. it is the
source of static reality.
Dreams, epiphany, aesthetic arrest, near death
experiences, love, awe, ....some of the names we give
to the irruption of Dynamic reality into static
reality.
in static reality the ego (social individual) is real;
in Dynamic reality it is not. the individual no longer
exists, or, if you like, the individual is all.
hope this helps.
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