Quoting David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Ant/Platt > > Pretty much agree with Ant. > We should not ask if something is real or an illusion. > Rather we should ask what sort of real is it? > > Before there was life on earth a glass of water was a real future > possibility. > A glass of water in my mind is a real memory. > A glass of water in the mind of the woman who invented the drinking glass is > a real good original idea yet to be actualised. > An empty glass near a tap is a real potential glass of water. > A glass of water that can be drunk or spilt or thrown has a number of real > practical uses. > A glass of water in another room is real but is beyond my current > experience. > The illusion of a glass of water for a thirsty woman is a real illusion of a > glass of water, desirable, but not drinkable for it is a real illusion > > The word illusion largely means something you can see but can't touch. > Is Mr Bush on my TV the real Mr Bush or an illusion of him? > Can my TV create Mr Bush's image in my lounge? > Is information unreal because you cannot touch it? > Don't think so when the very word 'artificial' tells us that ideas have very > real powers. > > David M
Hi David, I think maybe you're on to something. Rather than call the self an illusion as Buddhists do, ask what sort of real is it? For me it is real as a subject, real as an object, and real as a pattern of values depending on my perspective. Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
