[Ham]
> When was the last time you heard someone outside of
government
> or the MoQ talk about value? We're fooling
ourselves if we think that > people know what value
is, reflect on it, or even view it as important. >
Most people are concerned about issues, not values,
and where do
> they get their advice? From rock singers and movie
stars.
Ham, I agree. I don't even hear the word - value
- outside of the moq or politics and in the latter it
is usually referred to as 'family values'. I can't
think of any other context in politics it is used.
Does anybody else hear the word - value?
Also, it took me over a year on this discuss
forum to understand a basic notion of what value is.
I'm not saying due to this forum. For I read the word
here numerous times. It just didn't click as to what
value really meant. Especially in a moq context with
dq, this undefinable source, and sq, with the levels
and such. And then how quality is the same as value
and moral. I'm still not completely sure on the
quality - moral connection. I've got value
pinned-down to it can be thought of as a gateway of
like(s) and dislike(s). I find our decision to value
something based on our already existing static
patterns, and how much we are open to change or
'something' new. Value is grounded in the static
patterns of intellect, society, organic, and
inorganic. Yet, to like and dislike something, taken
on face 'value', can easily be thought of as whims and
superficiality notions. I like this today, but
tomorrow now I like that, for example. Desires,
consumerism, sex, and instant gratifications that can
occur in this culture dip into this notion of likes
and dislikes where it sounds more like pleasure than
value. Yet, here is where the notion of value is even
more grounded and seen similar, or as the moq puts it,
the same as morals. Likes and dislikes in this
culture seem more conducive to pleasure in this
culture, but I'm sure, Ham, that's not what your
talking about, and that's not what the moq is talking
about either. These likes and dislikes are more moral
than that.
Do you see what I mean? How do we or how do we
get the message of value across without getting it
wrapped up in what this culture usually perceives
likes and dislikes to be? I like my chocolate today,
but tomorrow I'll like potato chips. Value usage,
value in action has become a value without morals.
thoughts?
woods,
SA
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