quite right Marsha DM
----- Original Message ----- From: "MarshaV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Values > > > Greetings Ham, > > By rational, do you mean 'whatever you think'? Because it seems to > me that humans are comprised of very different patterns of thought. > > Marsha > > > At 07:29 PM 9/28/2007, you wrote: > >>HI Marsha -- >> >> >> >> > Well, there is the obvious problem, the sadomasochist. Both the >> > Golden Rule and Kant's Categorical Imperative seem to make their >> > point-of-view permissible. How would you define being rational? >> >>You'll note that I said "generally it can be described in terms of the >>Golden Rule." You have mischievously come up with an exception to this >>rule, but I believe I could make a good case for the irrationality of >>sadomasochism. In fact, I can think of no deviant behavior, from child >>molestation to shop lifting and xenophobia, that could not be understood >>as >>irrational by the perpetrator. I'm not saying that he would admit it, nor >>am I denying that "genetic predisposition" or environmental influences may >>be a factor here, but it is inconceivable to me that a reasonably >>intelligent person could doubt the rationality of anti-social behavior. >> >>With the possible exception of psychotic individuals, the vast majority of >>humans in a free society innately recognize the value of life and respect >>the right of others to behave as they please, provided this behavior does >>not impose on their freedom. Indeed, our laws are written from this >>rational point of view. So that the social deviant need only be informed >>of >>these laws (which are often read to him after the initial offense) in >>order >>to be aware of his unreasonable behavior. Even if one cannot comprehend >>that what harms his fellows harms himself, there is little excuse for >>irrational conduct in a society founded on rational principles. >> >>--Ham >> >> >>Moq_Discuss mailing list >>Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>Archives: >>http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
