Quoting Ant McWatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Khaled stated Sept 15th:
> 
> Ant, Platt
> 
> Here is how I see it.
> 
> It's like when the oxygen mask drops down in the airplane due to lack of
> pressure. First you have to put on that mask, before you attempt to help
> others.  If you think that you are the capable, and able person, the one
> siting by that emergency door, you need to be able to function. Putting
> the oxygen mask on your children first (if you are a parent), may causes
> you to pass out before you are done rendering you useless when more
> emergencies arise.
> 
> Having taken care of yourself first, --and here again, you know that you
> are in charge of your family and need to take care of them, and no you
> were not democratically elected to that position-- now you are able to
> take care of the rest.
> 
> Ant McWatt comments:
> 
> Sounds like a good answer to me, Khaled.  BTW, if the self is fundamentally 
> an illusion so is selfishness.  Anyway, I think most people eventually 
> grow-up and get beyond the "selfishness stage" especially after they have 
> children.

Some doublespeak going on here. First Khaled says you have to take care of 
yourself first. Ant agrees. Then says the self is a fantasy. So which is it 
fellas?
Is yourself real or a spook?

Platt




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