Most interesting and amusing. -Peter
On 16/11/2007, Margaret Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > have you seen the video of the seagull that > sneaks in every afternoon to a store and grabs > a bag or chips? > > He does it every day and when you watch > the difference between how the bird calmly > walks in the store before he grabs the chips > and how he quickly escapes... > > > http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2007/09/24/seagull-stealing-chips- > a-little-humor/ > > seems like there is some other level operating here... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Peter Corteen > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:09 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [MD] Fishing > > > > > > Hi SA, > > > > > Does this me not seeing a cougar throw a wrench into what you were > > > onto? > > > > No. It invalidates somewhat, but I, too, have seen animals > > hesitate, obviously considering what is the right thing for > > them to do. > > > > I'm interested in the question of whether non-human beings > > can act from the intellectual level. Bo says the intellectual > > level is characterised by SOM activity which we would > > normally assume to be exclusive to humans but I think we do > > the other animals an injustice. > > > > Regards > > > > -Peter > > > > On 16/11/2007, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > [Peter] > > > > after your poem about the hesitating cougar I > > > > referred to him in other > > > > threads recently to see what could be inferred from > > > > such behaviour; but > > > > then, in another thread, I noticed you said cougar > > > > is like a nickname for > > > > you. > > > > Did you really see the cougar hesitating to jump? > > > > > > > > > Only on television. Cougar's are not fond of > > > water. I believe all cats are not fond of water, > > > except for the jaguar. Jaguars will swim in water for > > > play. Cougar's will hesitate for kills, too. Cats > > > are this way. As cats mature they become more precise > > > and timely, waiting for what, for them, would be the > > > right moment. > > > Hmmmm, this has me thinking. Hesitation is also patience. > > > Waiting for the right moment which would depend on timing and > > > precision. > > > I've only seen two cougars in my life while I've > > > been walking in the woods. Once at a place called > > > Ohiopyle (Ron and Arlo may know of the place). Second > > > time was in Elk County while I was walking where elk > > > live (which east of the Mississippi River, I believe > > > this is one of two places where elk exist. Both > > > times, the cougars were walking up hill passed me > > perpendicular. The > > > Ohiopyle one was to my back (I sense a presence to my back), and I > > > turned and saw the cougar. An ex-girlfriend of mine picked > > up rocks > > > and tried to throw them at the cougar. I stopped her and > > > said, "The cougar is leaving us in peace, let us leave > > > the cougar in peace." The second cougar was further > > > away (the first was less than 15 yards away), and a > > > friend and I were fishing. I walked up over an > > > embankment and saw the cougar walking up the hill near > > > a bunch of boulders. I was stunned and tried to get > > > my friend to come up quickly and see the cougar, but > > > by the time he made it up the embankment, we turned > > > our heads and the cougar was gone. > > > Sorry if you thought I saw a cougar hesitate. > > > When I see hesitation, what I'm seeing is the cougar > > > (on TV) get a paw wet, and shake the paw, trying to > > > wait for a moment to jump, then eventually, after > > > standing for some time, the cougar jumps. Also, I've > > > seen (on TV) cougars hiding waiting to kill a prey, > > > but then back up and wait. Thus, hesitation, but then > > > again this is not the problematic hesitation or is it? > > > When we hesitate, don't we have a reason why, even if > > > it is fear or distance (something is not close enough > > > to get so we wait patiently as to not waste energy). > > > I'm glad to see you noticed the cougar was me. I > > > hesitate due to doubts and that I would say is > > > problematic, or maybe I'm thinking that's problematic, > > > for those doubts might be barriers influenced by > > > patience. I'm waiting for the right moments, but then > > > again it could be doubts bringing me down and thus, > > > tiring me, depressing me into not doing anything about > > > it (whatever it may be). Then eventually I go and do > > > it, and find out it was necessary even if it was to > > > dispel doubts that seemingly were holding me back > > > (hesitation). > > > Does this me not seeing a cougar throw a wrench > > > into what you were onto? > > > > > > second snow of this cold season and it is laying all > > > over the place, definitely more than a dusting, > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________ > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > > > with Yahoo Mobile. 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